I am currently running 4.1.22 ARC code.........I have been for it seems like forever. I am not looking for any new features. I need some bugs fixed though, and thats all 4.1.13 really buys you over 4.1.22...........actually I think 4.1.13 added some obscure l2tp feature.........but I don't use l2tp. In any case, if someone could be so kind as to mail me 4.1.13, or give me a way to get my hands on it, I would appreciate it, and maybe I can help you sometime. 3Com apparently feels one should pay for a software release that does nothing but fix about 10 issues......... Are others comfortable with 4.1.13 (as far as 4.1 train code goes)? I take baby steps with 3com code these days...........although I do here the 5.x stuff is good. Brian ----------------------------------------------- Brian Feeny, CCNA, CCDA signal@shreve.net Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.