Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92
John, Min Hardware for v92 HiPer DSPs HiPer ARC with 128MB RAM HiPer NMC http://www.commworks.com/Programs/v.92_Switchboard/ There are several trade in programs: http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/ Quad trade-in http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_V.92_Readiness/ Competitive Trade In http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_Competitive_Trad... NMC Card Trade In http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_v.92_upgradepack... Check them out and call your reseller. John Scrivner <john@scrivner.com>@lists.xmission.com on 11/12/2001 01:18:50 PM Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent by: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com To: USR List <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> cc: Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92 Could someone please list the minimum equipment needed in a chassis to perform V.92? I have been hearing lately that I will have to replace my management card? I know that quads are not supported so those are now junk. I have a number of Hiper's and I hear they will work. Also, are there any trade in programs that give a decent value for upgrading? I am certainly not looking forward to spending a bunch more on the soft dialup business. Cable has been selling 256k here for 29.95 per month with no setup fee and a free cable modem. No long term commitment needed. I HATE THOSE GUYS !! Any help is appreciated. Scriv - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
eep... 128 meg ram in the ARC? Is there a minimum flash size requirement? The old 64 meg ARCs aren't upgradable flash-wise, but are RAM-wise. Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. # chmod a+x /bin/laden On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
John,
Min Hardware for v92 HiPer DSPs HiPer ARC with 128MB RAM HiPer NMC
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/v.92_Switchboard/
There are several trade in programs: http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/
Quad trade-in http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_V.92_Readiness/
Competitive Trade In http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_Competitive_Trad...
NMC Card Trade In http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_v.92_upgradepack...
Check them out and call your reseller.
John Scrivner <john@scrivner.com>@lists.xmission.com on 11/12/2001 01:18:50 PM
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Could someone please list the minimum equipment needed in a chassis to perform V.92?
I have been hearing lately that I will have to replace my management card? I know that quads are not supported so those are now junk. I have a number of Hiper's and I hear they will work.
Also, are there any trade in programs that give a decent value for upgrading?
I am certainly not looking forward to spending a bunch more on the soft dialup business. Cable has been selling 256k here for 29.95 per month with no setup fee and a free cable modem. No long term commitment needed. I HATE THOSE GUYS !! Any help is appreciated. Scriv
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Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question... If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much? We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Yes, we paid for the support contract upgrade. We already had the other components except for the nmc. It has helped on its own seperate from the v.92 question. Even though v.92 isn't working completely yet with any vendor, Patton included, we found the improvement in connections for our customers and tech support to be worth the investment. Others will likely have a different opinion, but they probably believe in free internet accounts as well. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question...
If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much?
We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses...
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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Support contract upgrade? So you have to buy another support contract? How unlike 3com! Not... Sorry, I do not wish to make this into a lengthy 3com s*cks thread... So if someone could explain to me offlist I would appreciate the assistance. Anyone... Thanks, -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:58 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) Yes, we paid for the support contract upgrade. We already had the other components except for the nmc. It has helped on its own seperate from the v.92 question. Even though v.92 isn't working completely yet with any vendor, Patton included, we found the improvement in connections for our customers and tech support to be worth the investment. Others will likely have a different opinion, but they probably believe in free internet accounts as well. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question...
If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much?
We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses...
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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I will respond on list so that I can clear up any misconception I may have created. You do not have to have any special support contract, just a plain old support contract with one of the third party 3Com approved providers. If you have specific questions on the results of the upgrade other than the v.92 issue (I am under a beta agreement and can't divulge anything you could otherwise guess on your own) let me know and I will answer them offline. The main thing for us is the upgrade gave us better customer service without the cost of replacing our equipment. No trade-in program came close, but that is because we already had most of the required equipment. If you don't you have different issues to consider. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Support contract upgrade?
So you have to buy another support contract? How unlike 3com! Not...
Sorry, I do not wish to make this into a lengthy 3com s*cks thread... So if someone could explain to me offlist I would appreciate the assistance. Anyone...
Thanks,
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:58 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Yes, we paid for the support contract upgrade. We already had the other components except for the nmc. It has helped on its own seperate from the v.92 question. Even though v.92 isn't working completely yet with any vendor, Patton included, we found the improvement in connections for our customers and tech support to be worth the investment. Others will likely have a different opinion, but they probably believe in free internet accounts as well.
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question...
If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much?
We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses...
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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We have all the required equipment... Can you email me offlist and explain the details? -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 6:37 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) I will respond on list so that I can clear up any misconception I may have created. You do not have to have any special support contract, just a plain old support contract with one of the third party 3Com approved providers. If you have specific questions on the results of the upgrade other than the v.92 issue (I am under a beta agreement and can't divulge anything you could otherwise guess on your own) let me know and I will answer them offline. The main thing for us is the upgrade gave us better customer service without the cost of replacing our equipment. No trade-in program came close, but that is because we already had most of the required equipment. If you don't you have different issues to consider. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Support contract upgrade?
So you have to buy another support contract? How unlike 3com! Not...
Sorry, I do not wish to make this into a lengthy 3com s*cks thread... So if someone could explain to me offlist I would appreciate the assistance. Anyone...
Thanks,
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:58 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Yes, we paid for the support contract upgrade. We already had the other components except for the nmc. It has helped on its own seperate
from the v.92 question. Even though v.92 isn't working completely yet with any vendor, Patton included, we found the improvement in connections for our customers and tech support to be worth the investment. Others will likely have a different opinion, but they probably believe in free internet accounts as well.
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that
is in their right mind)
Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question...
If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much?
We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses...
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
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We haven't upgraded yet, but we did pay for the contract and always have. The few times that I've needed support, the techs that I talked to were very helpful and when equipment was bad it was taken care of. Right now we have a software only contract, because that is all we need at the moment. I upgraded to the TCS 4.3 level and it has improved a few things. When we've given the V.92 code a chance to make sure that it works, we'll upgrade. Lance Eves KanOkla Communications -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question... If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much? We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Are you new to the list? 3com helpful? Since when? I haven't heard from a support rep in years... literally... ever since they promised us a bunch of things such as Palm Pilots and some free upgrades... which we NEVER received. We have over 3000 ports in Hiper 3com equipment... you would think they would care a little more. -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Lance Eves Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:17 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) We haven't upgraded yet, but we did pay for the contract and always have. The few times that I've needed support, the techs that I talked to were very helpful and when equipment was bad it was taken care of. Right now we have a software only contract, because that is all we need at the moment. I upgraded to the TCS 4.3 level and it has improved a few things. When we've given the V.92 code a chance to make sure that it works, we'll upgrade. Lance Eves KanOkla Communications -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question... If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much? We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Also sprach Ed Taylor
Are you new to the list? 3com helpful? Since when?
Well, Tom (I assume Marshall was referring to Tom Goodman here) has always at least attempted to be helpful...even if he's been hamstrung by the company. I have nothing but good to say about Tom. My main hope at this point is that his job doesn't disappear out from under him. We'll just say, I don't have much confidence in 3Com as a long-term investment opportunity. ;) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Sorry, I've only been on the list for about 3-4 years and I haven't heard from a support rep that entire time unless I called one. Are the support reps supposed to call and bother you when you don't need help? I have had to call support 3 times during that time period. Two of those was for a piece of equipment that went bad and needed to be sent back for repair. The other was for a configuration question at 10PM one evening. I was never promised toys or free stuff and only have about 1500 ports, but have been very pleased with the equipment. I guess it all depends on where you're coming from. For me if the equipment works, that's all I need. I do all my own support and support for some others and the primary reason for me to carry a support contract is the software upgrades. Just my opinion. Lance Eves -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:14 AM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) Are you new to the list? 3com helpful? Since when? I haven't heard from a support rep in years... literally... ever since they promised us a bunch of things such as Palm Pilots and some free upgrades... which we NEVER received. We have over 3000 ports in Hiper 3com equipment... you would think they would care a little more. -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Lance Eves Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:17 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) We haven't upgraded yet, but we did pay for the contract and always have. The few times that I've needed support, the techs that I talked to were very helpful and when equipment was bad it was taken care of. Right now we have a software only contract, because that is all we need at the moment. I upgraded to the TCS 4.3 level and it has improved a few things. When we've given the V.92 code a chance to make sure that it works, we'll upgrade. Lance Eves KanOkla Communications -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind) Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question... If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much? We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses... -- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net -- - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
how do you run 1500 ports off a company thats only been allocated a /22? Aside from that, I wouldn't generalize number of ports on this list, because you may bet that wench "mary" trying to hold you to 1500 ports, when you really only have a few hundred. I can hear it now "Don't tell me you only have 250 ports, I saw you post on usr-tc!" eeek! Brian On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Lance Eves wrote:
Sorry, I've only been on the list for about 3-4 years and I haven't heard from a support rep that entire time unless I called one. Are the support reps supposed to call and bother you when you don't need help? I have had to call support 3 times during that time period. Two of those was for a piece of equipment that went bad and needed to be sent back for repair. The other was for a configuration question at 10PM one evening. I was never promised toys or free stuff and only have about 1500 ports, but have been very pleased with the equipment. I guess it all depends on where you're coming from. For me if the equipment works, that's all I need. I do all my own support and support for some others and the primary reason for me to carry a support contract is the software upgrades. Just my opinion.
Lance Eves
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:14 AM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Are you new to the list? 3com helpful? Since when?
I haven't heard from a support rep in years... literally... ever since they promised us a bunch of things such as Palm Pilots and some free upgrades... which we NEVER received.
We have over 3000 ports in Hiper 3com equipment... you would think they would care a little more.
-- Edgar D. Taylor President/CEO FIRST USA Inc. Voice: (800)716-6190 Email: ed@1st.net Web: www.1st.net --
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Lance Eves Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:17 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
We haven't upgraded yet, but we did pay for the contract and always have. The few times that I've needed support, the techs that I talked to were very helpful and when equipment was bad it was taken care of. Right now we have a software only contract, because that is all we need at the moment. I upgraded to the TCS 4.3 level and it has improved a few things. When we've given the V.92 code a chance to make sure that it works, we'll upgrade.
Lance Eves KanOkla Communications
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ed Taylor Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:07 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92... IS ANYONE BUYING IT? (that is in their right mind)
Has anyone actually upgraded to V.92 is a better question...
If so did you actually PAY to do so? If so how much?
We have stopped buying 3com until they come to their senses...
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Thomas and others are working on getting US ALL an answer to this ASAP - I for one am confident that someone of intelligence will correct the "oversight" and have something that will work around the RAM upgradeable, FLASH not upgradeable issue and the new code requirements of a 128M/16M ARC. Crossing fingers and toes ... Marshall Morgan Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) http://www.netdoor.com 601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax 601.969.3838 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Andrews" <mandrews@bit0.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92
eep... 128 meg ram in the ARC? Is there a minimum flash size requirement? The old 64 meg ARCs aren't upgradable flash-wise, but are RAM-wise.
Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. # chmod a+x /bin/laden
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
John,
Min Hardware for v92 HiPer DSPs HiPer ARC with 128MB RAM HiPer NMC
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/v.92_Switchboard/
There are several trade in programs: http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/
Quad trade-in
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_V.92_Readiness/
Competitive Trade In
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_Competitive_Trad e-In/
NMC Card Trade In
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_v.92_upgradepack /
Check them out and call your reseller.
John Scrivner <john@scrivner.com>@lists.xmission.com on 11/12/2001
01:18:50
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Could someone please list the minimum equipment needed in a chassis to perform V.92?
I have been hearing lately that I will have to replace my management card? I know that quads are not supported so those are now junk. I have a number of Hiper's and I hear they will work.
Also, are there any trade in programs that give a decent value for upgrading?
I am certainly not looking forward to spending a bunch more on the soft dialup business. Cable has been selling 256k here for 29.95 per month with no setup fee and a free cable modem. No long term commitment needed. I HATE THOSE GUYS !! Any help is appreciated. Scriv
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Personally, I have a sneaking suspicion that neither the ARC nor NMC upgrades are actually NECESSARY to get V.92 functionality. I've run my ARCs many revs behind my DSPs in the past with no problems. I'm also guessing that if you don't have the HiPerNMC you lose the ability to play with v.92 configs, but not much else. Unless the bastards have the DSP check NMC hardware/software rev as a "key" to enable the feature... Charles | Charles Sprickman | Internet Channel | INCH System Administration Team | (212)243-5200 | spork@inch.com | access@inch.com On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Marshall Morgan wrote:
Thomas and others are working on getting US ALL an answer to this ASAP - I for one am confident that someone of intelligence will correct the "oversight" and have something that will work around the RAM upgradeable, FLASH not upgradeable issue and the new code requirements of a 128M/16M ARC.
Crossing fingers and toes ...
Marshall Morgan
Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) http://www.netdoor.com
601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax 601.969.3838 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Andrews" <mandrews@bit0.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92
eep... 128 meg ram in the ARC? Is there a minimum flash size requirement? The old 64 meg ARCs aren't upgradable flash-wise, but are RAM-wise.
Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. # chmod a+x /bin/laden
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
John,
Min Hardware for v92 HiPer DSPs HiPer ARC with 128MB RAM HiPer NMC
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/v.92_Switchboard/
There are several trade in programs: http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/
Quad trade-in
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_V.92_Readiness/
Competitive Trade In
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_Competitive_Trad e-In/
NMC Card Trade In
http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_v.92_upgradepack /
Check them out and call your reseller.
John Scrivner <john@scrivner.com>@lists.xmission.com on 11/12/2001
01:18:50
PM
Please respond to usr-tc@lists.xmission.com
Sent by: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com
To: USR List <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> cc: Subject: (usr-tc) Getting Ready for V.92
Could someone please list the minimum equipment needed in a chassis to perform V.92?
I have been hearing lately that I will have to replace my management card? I know that quads are not supported so those are now junk. I have a number of Hiper's and I hear they will work.
Also, are there any trade in programs that give a decent value for upgrading?
I am certainly not looking forward to spending a bunch more on the soft dialup business. Cable has been selling 256k here for 29.95 per month with no setup fee and a free cable modem. No long term commitment needed. I HATE THOSE GUYS !! Any help is appreciated. Scriv
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At 02:34 PM 11/12/01 -0600, Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
NMC Card Trade In http://www.commworks.com/Programs/Promotional_Offers/TC1000_v.92_upgradepack...
Why the requirement to purchase a DSP in addition to the HiPer NMC? -- Kirk Mitchell-General Manager mitch@keyconn.net Keystone Connect Unlock Your World Altoona, PA 814-941-5000 http://www.keyconn.net
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