(usr-tc) YYYeeeoooowwwww!!!
I just re-subscribed to this list to see what kind of problems / chatter I would see. We are looking at adding 192 NEW ports and were considering USR as a provider. (Vendors please do not respond I have one in mind) You people whine about your TC's JUST AS MUCH as we whine about our PM3's. Looks like modem compatibility is just as bad as the PM3's Lucent's tech support is Free but sometimes difficult to get a human voice. TC's are $2k cheaper with the service contract than PM3's PM's OSPF works??? (At this point I don't need it) TC's chasis are upgradeable, with different cards Anyone have any other comparisons? Thanks JOhn :} ----- Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men >Colossians 3:23 (NIV) John C. Lange, Sr. PALACE dot NET, INC. microjl@palacenet.net MICRO-TECH Computers, Inc. 608.742.1601 & 6980 1819 New Pinery Road http://www.palacenet.net/ Portage, WI 53901 MSCE Training for only $150.00 - http://dpec.palacenet.net/ All 200+ Web Based Courses for $150.00 Per Year - "Really" --- __o --- _-\<,_ Fastest Service in Town --- (_)/ (_) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, John Lange wrote:
Anyone have any other comparisons?
TC modem throughput is about 25%-30% faster than the PM3. Theres something to be said about using PowerPC CPUs on every card. -Dan - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, John Lange wrote:
You people whine about your TC's JUST AS MUCH as we whine about our PM3's. Looks like modem compatibility is just as bad as the PM3's PM3 is crap compared to Quads. I don't have any DSP (and since code seems less stable..).
Lucent's tech support is Free but sometimes difficult to get a human voice. Just the 800 number then the ticket number gets you right to the very same tech you talked to a couple of minutes ago..
TC's are $2k cheaper with the service contract than PM3's Not in Canada, as far as I know.
PM's OSPF works??? (At this point I don't need it) Yes, and a big bit better than TC rip on Netserver.
TC's chasis are upgradeable, with different cards What about power requirements? Hiper Chassis is filled with fans and require incredible amps, whereas PM3 is less noisy than a PC.
Anyone have any other comparisons? To sum up: PM3 with Quad modem code would *rock*.
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John, Quick note: We haven't had any real bad problems with our Ascend equipment or their support but we have always had problems with our 3Com equipment. During this year we will be converting 1200+ 3Com ports to Ascend. Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lange" <microjl@palacenet.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: (usr-tc) YYYeeeoooowwwww!!!
I just re-subscribed to this list to see what kind of problems / chatter I would see.
We are looking at adding 192 NEW ports and were considering USR as a provider. (Vendors please do not respond I have one in mind)
You people whine about your TC's JUST AS MUCH as we whine about our PM3's. Looks like modem compatibility is just as bad as the PM3's
Lucent's tech support is Free but sometimes difficult to get a human voice. TC's are $2k cheaper with the service contract than PM3's PM's OSPF works??? (At this point I don't need it) TC's chasis are upgradeable, with different cards
Anyone have any other comparisons? Thanks JOhn :}
----- Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men >Colossians 3:23 (NIV)
John C. Lange, Sr. PALACE dot NET, INC. microjl@palacenet.net MICRO-TECH Computers, Inc. 608.742.1601 & 6980 1819 New Pinery Road http://www.palacenet.net/ Portage, WI 53901 MSCE Training for only $150.00 - http://dpec.palacenet.net/ All 200+ Web Based Courses for $150.00 Per Year - "Really"
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While we continue to be intruged by the lure of the greener grass on the other platform, I just took a call from a convert from our prime competitor. The client is a small business just starting to utilize the Internet but their previous connection was "holding them back". I asked what that meant and they indicated the real speed of the connection is very different, in favor of us. I am aware there are other factors that may play into this, but the competitor has all the money, all the bandwidth, all the PRI lines (we use CT1's, primarily) and yet this is a recurring comment from converts. It almost makes me want to hold a revival or something, you know, put up a tent and hand out cd's;) At any rate the other difference between us and them is we use 3Com and they use Lucent and Ascend. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: The NOC (COX Internet) <usrtc@tyler.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) YYYeeeoooowwwww!!!
John,
Quick note: We haven't had any real bad problems with our Ascend equipment or their support but we have always had problems with our 3Com equipment. During this year we will be converting 1200+ 3Com ports to Ascend.
Bryan NOC Technician COX Internet
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Mark Thornton wrote:
While we continue to be intruged by the lure of the greener grass on the other platform, I just took a call from a convert from our prime competitor. The client is a small business just starting to utilize the Internet but their previous connection was "holding them back". I asked what that meant and they indicated the real speed of the connection is very different, in favor of us. I am aware there are other factors that may play into this, but the competitor has all the money, all the bandwidth, all the PRI lines (we use CT1's, primarily) and yet this is a recurring comment from converts. It almost makes me want to hold a revival or something, you know, put up a tent and hand out cd's;) At any rate the other difference between us and them is we use 3Com and they use Lucent and Ascend.
In the past the Ascend products have been way underpowered. All my competitors that have Ascend gear have CPP turned off, even the guys with TNTs. I remember when the 4004 was their 96 port chassis, you couldn't use over 72 ports or everybody would find their connectivity grind to a crawl. One ISP had about 22 4004 boxes swapped out for the 6000 series chassis for free - just the bare chassis was swapped he had to retain all his modem cards. He said it's helped somewhat with performance, but it's not where he thinks it should be. he said he really had to fight to get the those boxes swapped in the first place. I guess the lawyers sent nastygrams back and forth for a over a year before Ascend agreed to the swap. -Ron GLISnet, Inc. +1 810/939.9885 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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