Speaking of field agents...did it get passed to this list that George Ebert (spelling) was canned. What a bite! That guy was amazing at promoting 3Com. Brian Becker President, Poplar Bluff Internet, Inc. P.O. Box 190 | Poplar Bluff, MO 63902 | 573.686.9114 Home of http://semo.net - Southeast Missouri's Online Community http://TotallyFabricated.com Total Scrutinizer - Tech Support Just Got Easier WebGabber - All-html Web Chat Software -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:20 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied Makes me glad I don't own any 3Com stock. A company that committed to screwing their own best advocate and field support agent is definitely out to screw me. I can't really see how anyone can actually rep them at this point and maintain any sense of integrity. Aside from the poor attitude that fostered the obvious filter, consider the dumb-ass that was too challenged to at least configure their server to swallow the message into a black hole rather that make it obvious that someone is being filtered. It is damned obvious the whole group is a couple of fries short of a happy meal... Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Andrews" <mandrews@bit0.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied
This looked so incredibly lame that I couldn't believe 3Com would do something that stupid. Until I tried it for myself and found out that yes they really were that lame...
mail from: mandrews@bit0.com 250 2.1.0 mandrews@bit0.com... Sender ok rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: root@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 root@iglou.com... Sender ok quit 221 2.0.0 zircon.3com.com closing connection
Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.)
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
This is apparently 3Com/CommWorks response to criticism...
quiz:/home/jeffm> telnet zircon.3com.com 25 Trying 192.156.136.159... Connected to zircon.3com.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 zircon.3com.com ESMTP Sendmail Switch-2.1.1/Switch-2.1.0; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) helo iglou.com 250 zircon.3com.com Hello quiz.iglou.com [192.107.41.41], pleased to meet you mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied mail from: jeff@iglou.com 250 2.1.0 jeff@iglou.com... Sender ok
Lovely. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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If they ,USR.. would sit up and notice that the most critical are also the most avid user/supporter, just as a parent i am most critical of my children than others because i care more . BUT ... funny thought here, now the govt. considers this criticism abuse rather than love for my children, so i guess USR too. albert.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Brian Becker Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'usr-tc@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Access Denied
Speaking of field agents...did it get passed to this list that George Ebert (spelling) was canned. What a bite! That guy was amazing at promoting 3Com.
Brian Becker President, Poplar Bluff Internet, Inc. P.O. Box 190 | Poplar Bluff, MO 63902 | 573.686.9114
Home of http://semo.net - Southeast Missouri's Online Community http://TotallyFabricated.com Total Scrutinizer - Tech Support Just Got Easier WebGabber - All-html Web Chat Software
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:20 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied
Makes me glad I don't own any 3Com stock. A company that committed to screwing their own best advocate and field support agent is definitely out to screw me. I can't really see how anyone can actually rep them at this point and maintain any sense of integrity. Aside from the poor attitude that fostered the obvious filter, consider the dumb-ass that was too challenged to at least configure their server to swallow the message into a black hole rather that make it obvious that someone is being filtered. It is damned obvious the whole group is a couple of fries short of a happy meal...
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Andrews" <mandrews@bit0.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied
This looked so incredibly lame that I couldn't believe 3Com would do something that stupid. Until I tried it for myself and found out that yes they really were that lame...
mail from: mandrews@bit0.com 250 2.1.0 mandrews@bit0.com... Sender ok rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: root@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 root@iglou.com... Sender ok quit 221 2.0.0 zircon.3com.com closing connection
Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.)
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
This is apparently 3Com/CommWorks response to criticism...
quiz:/home/jeffm> telnet zircon.3com.com 25 Trying 192.156.136.159... Connected to zircon.3com.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 zircon.3com.com ESMTP Sendmail Switch-2.1.1/Switch-2.1.0; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) helo iglou.com 250 zircon.3com.com Hello quiz.iglou.com [192.107.41.41], pleased to meet you mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied mail from: jeff@iglou.com 250 2.1.0 jeff@iglou.com... Sender ok
Lovely. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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well i am looking to buy Netserver 16 units, reg. analog and a few I modem sets too. albert. albert/brenda zegiel FARMPRIDE PRODUCTS 223 MAIN STREET GAYS MILLS, WISCONSIN, 54631 ph-1-608-735-4667 fx 735-4994
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Brian Becker Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:46 AM To: 'usr-tc@lists.xmission.com' Subject: RE: (usr-tc) Access Denied
Speaking of field agents...did it get passed to this list that George Ebert (spelling) was canned. What a bite! That guy was amazing at promoting 3Com.
Brian Becker President, Poplar Bluff Internet, Inc. P.O. Box 190 | Poplar Bluff, MO 63902 | 573.686.9114
Home of http://semo.net - Southeast Missouri's Online Community http://TotallyFabricated.com Total Scrutinizer - Tech Support Just Got Easier WebGabber - All-html Web Chat Software
-----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mark Thornton Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:20 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied
Makes me glad I don't own any 3Com stock. A company that committed to screwing their own best advocate and field support agent is definitely out to screw me. I can't really see how anyone can actually rep them at this point and maintain any sense of integrity. Aside from the poor attitude that fostered the obvious filter, consider the dumb-ass that was too challenged to at least configure their server to swallow the message into a black hole rather that make it obvious that someone is being filtered. It is damned obvious the whole group is a couple of fries short of a happy meal...
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc 512-393-5300
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Andrews" <mandrews@bit0.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) Access Denied
This looked so incredibly lame that I couldn't believe 3Com would do something that stupid. Until I tried it for myself and found out that yes they really were that lame...
mail from: mandrews@bit0.com 250 2.1.0 mandrews@bit0.com... Sender ok rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied rset 250 2.0.0 Reset state mail from: root@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 root@iglou.com... Sender ok quit 221 2.0.0 zircon.3com.com closing connection
Mike Andrews * mandrews@dcr.net * mandrews@bit0.com * http://www.bit0.com VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet access for Frankfort, Lexington, Louisville and surrounding counties www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.)
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
This is apparently 3Com/CommWorks response to criticism...
quiz:/home/jeffm> telnet zircon.3com.com 25 Trying 192.156.136.159... Connected to zircon.3com.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 zircon.3com.com ESMTP Sendmail Switch-2.1.1/Switch-2.1.0; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) helo iglou.com 250 zircon.3com.com Hello quiz.iglou.com [192.107.41.41], pleased to meet you mail from: jeffm@iglou.com 550 5.7.1 jeffm@iglou.com... Access denied mail from: jeff@iglou.com 250 2.1.0 jeff@iglou.com... Sender ok
Lovely. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Also sprach Brian Becker
Speaking of field agents...did it get passed to this list that George Ebert (spelling) was canned. What a bite! That guy was amazing at promoting 3Com.
I hadn't posted it to the list, but I was indeed aware of it, yes. Terrible shame, as I've said before...Tom Goodman and George Ebert are really the only reasons we didn't quit using 3Com products long ago. Have you confirmed the basis on why he is no longer with the company? I know it happened right about the time that the last round of layoffs (the 30% reduction) occured. I didn't know if he got laid off, took (an encouraged ;) early retirement, or what. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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