(usr-tc) TimeZone Reality Check for ARC's
ARC's only do GMT? Time IS correct w/NTP, but could find nothing on setting TimeZone. Makes "list connections"'s look weird with the login times, but that's about it. SMT Scott M. Trautman 800-482-4638 Global Dialog Internet 608-240-4638,4637fax 2810 Crossroads, STE LL2 scott@gdinet.com Madison WI 53718 http://www.gdinet.com - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
|-----Original Message----- |From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com |[mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Scott Trautman |Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:50 AM |To: 'usr-tc@lists.xmission.com' |Subject: (usr-tc) TimeZone Reality Check for ARC's | | |ARC's only do GMT? | |Time IS correct w/NTP, but could find nothing on setting TimeZone. |Makes "list connections"'s look weird with the login times, but that's about |it. | You are correct sir. -M - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
|-----Original Message----- |From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com |[mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Scott Trautman |Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:50 AM |To: 'usr-tc@lists.xmission.com' |Subject: (usr-tc) TimeZone Reality Check for ARC's | | |ARC's only do GMT? | |Time IS correct w/NTP, but could find nothing on setting TimeZone. |Makes "list connections"'s look weird with the login times, but that's about |it. |
You are correct sir.
-M
Perhaps that could be put in the "Wish List"? The ability to set the ARCs to one's own time zone? (Incidently, 3Com, why wasn't that taken into consideration in the first place?) ********************************************************* Michelle M. Mogil N&CS, Network Operations Center Rhodes Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 vox: (607) 255-0516, fax: (607) 255-8420 email: mmm3@cornell.edu ********************************************** - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu
Perhaps that could be put in the "Wish List"? The ability to set the ARCs to one's own time zone? (Incidently, 3Com, why wasn't that taken into consideration in the first place?)
Indeed, this would be a nice thing to have, and shouldn't take too terribly long to implement, but to be honest, it is purely a cosmetic thing. It doesn't affect funtionality of the system at all. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu
Perhaps that could be put in the "Wish List"? The ability to set the ARCs to one's own time zone? (Incidently, 3Com, why wasn't that taken into consideration in the first place?)
Indeed, this would be a nice thing to have, and shouldn't take too terribly long to implement, but to be honest, it is purely a cosmetic thing. It doesn't affect funtionality of the system at all.
Not completely a cosmetic thing since I sometimes use it to track problems. It's just easier to be able to check the time in one's own time zone rather than to keep mentally subtracting 5. I'm lazy. 8-) ********************************************************* Michelle M. Mogil N&CS, Network Operations Center Rhodes Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 vox: (607) 255-0516, fax: (607) 255-8420 email: mmm3@cornell.edu ********************************************** - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu
Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu
Perhaps that could be put in the "Wish List"? The ability to set the ARCs to one's own time zone? (Incidently, 3Com, why wasn't that taken into consideration in the first place?)
Indeed, this would be a nice thing to have, and shouldn't take too terribly long to implement, but to be honest, it is purely a cosmetic thing. It doesn't affect funtionality of the system at all.
Not completely a cosmetic thing since I sometimes use it to track problems. It's just easier to be able to check the time in one's own ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Like I said...its a cosmetic thing. ;)
time zone rather than to keep mentally subtracting 5. I'm lazy. 8-) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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-> Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu -> >>Thus spake mmm3@cornell.edu -> >>>Perhaps that could be put in the "Wish List"? The ability to set the -> >>>ARCs to one's own time zone? (Incidently, 3Com, why wasn't that taken -> >>>into consideration in the first place?) -> -> >>Indeed, this would be a nice thing to have, and shouldn't take too -> >>terribly long to implement, but to be honest, it is purely a cosmetic -> >>thing. It doesn't affect funtionality of the system at all. -> -> >Not completely a cosmetic thing since I sometimes use it to track -> >problems. It's just easier to be able to check the time in one's own -> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -> Like I said...its a cosmetic thing. ;) -> -> >time zone rather than to keep mentally subtracting 5. I'm lazy. 8-) Jeff, Not exactly. If you are using this with an enterprise management system which aggregates SNMP traps, there could be a problem with some of the devices reporting local time and some reporting GMT time. The fact that most network devices allow for a timezone offset would lend credence to this. Jeff Binkley ASA Network Computing - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake Jeff Binkley
-> >Not completely a cosmetic thing since I sometimes use it to track -> >problems. It's just easier to be able to check the time in one's own -> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -> Like I said...its a cosmetic thing. ;)
-> >time zone rather than to keep mentally subtracting 5. I'm lazy. 8-)
Not exactly. If you are using this with an enterprise management system which aggregates SNMP traps, there could be a problem with some of the devices reporting local time and some reporting GMT time. The fact that most network devices allow for a timezone offset would lend credence to this.
Well, I would hope that in SNMP traps, the data would be in GMT and not in a human-readable, and unbelievably-hard-to-reliably-parse format. Converting and display the SNMP trap timestamp information in a human readable format and timezone of the viewer should be the job of the enterprise management system, certainly not of the SNMP agent. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
To put an end to this thread. HARC 5.0 has TZ configurable for cosmetic reasons.. And I do believe that Jeff is correct here. The TIMESTAMP should always be in GMT. The receiver is responsible for correcting for local display. -M |-----Original Message----- |From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com |[mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams |Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:14 PM |To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com |Subject: Re: (usr-tc) TimeZone Reality Check for ARC's | | |Thus spake Jeff Binkley |>-> >Not completely a cosmetic thing since I sometimes use it to track |>-> >problems. It's just easier to be able to check the time in one's own |>-> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |>-> Like I said...its a cosmetic thing. ;) | |>-> >time zone rather than to keep mentally subtracting 5. I'm lazy. 8-) | |>Not exactly. If you are using this with an enterprise management system |>which aggregates SNMP traps, there could be a problem with some of the |>devices reporting local time and some reporting GMT time. The fact that |>most network devices allow for a timezone offset would lend credence |>to this. | |Well, I would hope that in SNMP traps, the data would be in GMT and not |in a human-readable, and unbelievably-hard-to-reliably-parse format. |Converting and display the SNMP trap timestamp information in a human |readable format and timezone of the viewer should be the job of the |enterprise management system, certainly not of the SNMP agent. |-- |Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com |Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 |IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 | |- | To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" | with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. | For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send | "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. | - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
What else is new in 5.0? (You just KNEW you were gonna get asked that :) I'm guessing it won't be out for quite a while... but I'm mildly curious. Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, & Shelbyville "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." -- RFC 1925 On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Mike Wronski wrote:
To put an end to this thread. HARC 5.0 has TZ configurable for cosmetic reasons.. And I do believe that Jeff is correct here. The TIMESTAMP should always be in GMT. The receiver is responsible for correcting for local display.
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On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Jeff Binkley wrote:
Not exactly. If you are using this with an enterprise management system which aggregates SNMP traps, there could be a problem with some of the devices reporting local time and some reporting GMT time. The fact that most network devices allow for a timezone offset would lend credence to this.
The NMC sends almost all of the traps, and it has a timezone (and daylight time) setting. I haven't seen the ARC send any traps, except for some OSPF ones that I ended up turning off anyway because they weren't useful... Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, & Shelbyville "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." -- RFC 1925 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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Jeff Mcadams -
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Scott Trautman