Where would I find a list of the SNMP queries the HyperArc will respond to? I am looking to retrieve a list of current online users. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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Where would I find a list of the SNMP queries the HyperArc will respond to?
If you have ucd-snmp tools installed: snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> enterprises Should cover most everything. Warning though...that's gonna give you copious output. :)
I am looking to retrieve a list of current online users.
Try: snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
I was going to ask the same question today. I want to retrieve a list of current online users from the hyperarcs. snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName This didn't work. I have a list of all of the mibs and usrCipUserName isn't in this list. Where did you find this info? Have you verified that it works? If so could you post more info? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 11:41 AM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question Also sprach Mark Thornton
Where would I find a list of the SNMP queries the HyperArc will respond to?
If you have ucd-snmp tools installed: snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> enterprises Should cover most everything. Warning though...that's gonna give you copious output. :)
I am looking to retrieve a list of current online users.
Try: snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Will that command work in Windows 2000? Windows NT? Brian Gordon Supervisor Of Internet Operations Westelcom Family of Companies http://www.westelcom.com supervisor@westelcom.com 518.566.6726 Voice 419.831.9137 Fax "We will exceed our customers' expectations in providing competitively priced, superior quality, state-of-the-art communications and information services." ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hamilton" <borden@voyager.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: RE: (usr-tc) SNMP question
I was going to ask the same question today. I want to retrieve a list of current online users from the hyperarcs.
snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName
This didn't work. I have a list of all of the mibs and usrCipUserName isn't in this list. Where did you find this info? Have you verified that it works? If so could you post more info?
Thanks
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Where would I find a list of the SNMP queries the HyperArc will respond to?
If you have ucd-snmp tools installed:
snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> enterprises
Should cover most everything. Warning though...that's gonna give you copious output. :)
I am looking to retrieve a list of current online users.
Try: snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Will that command work in Windows 2000? Windows NT?
I haven't a clue, but I would suspect not. You can use whatever SNMP browser you have available to snag the usrCipUserName column of the usrCipPortParamTable to get this info. I just used the ucd-snmp util syntax because that's what I tend to use for quick grabs of information. For more sophisticated processing, I tend to write perl5 scripts using the SNMP module to do whatever I need. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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I was going to ask the same question today. I want to retrieve a list of current online users from the hyperarcs.
snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName
This didn't work. I have a list of all of the mibs and usrCipUserName isn't in this list. Where did you find this info? Have you verified that it works? If so could you post more info?
Its in a file "hiperarc.mib" that actually contains quite a few mibs, for use with the HiPer Arc's. You *don't* get this information sending the requests to the NMC (well, you *can* get it through the NMC, its just a bit more convoluted to do so :). You need to set up SNMP access on the Arc (or use the NMC as an SNMP relay agent) to be able to access this information. Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable. I *believe* the hiperarc.mib file is included with the hiperarc software download zip file, but am not sure on that. If you'd like a copy of the file, I can send it. I'm trying to hit on some of the things that might have caused you a problem...without knowing specifically what you ran into, I can't give you a good answer as to what you're doing wrong. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
I would love to have a copy of "hiperarc.mib" If you could send it I'd would appreciate it. Thanks... -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:45 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question Also sprach David Hamilton
I was going to ask the same question today. I want to retrieve a list of current online users from the hyperarcs.
snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName
This didn't work. I have a list of all of the mibs and usrCipUserName isn't in this list. Where did you find this info? Have you verified that it works? If so could you post more info?
Its in a file "hiperarc.mib" that actually contains quite a few mibs, for use with the HiPer Arc's. You *don't* get this information sending the requests to the NMC (well, you *can* get it through the NMC, its just a bit more convoluted to do so :). You need to set up SNMP access on the Arc (or use the NMC as an SNMP relay agent) to be able to access this information. Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable. I *believe* the hiperarc.mib file is included with the hiperarc software download zip file, but am not sure on that. If you'd like a copy of the file, I can send it. I'm trying to hit on some of the things that might have caused you a problem...without knowing specifically what you ran into, I can't give you a good answer as to what you're doing wrong. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable.
So our snmp program should load the mib first, then query the HiperArc? I am installing the snmp utils on my Linux box right now, but when I used the snmp utility from IpSwitch on my NT machine is didn't provide any method of reading a mib file. It also couldn't find the attribute you specified. Am I missing something or do I need better snmp software (that hopefully the Linux utils will provide)? Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable.
So our snmp program should load the mib first, then query the HiperArc? I am installing the snmp utils on my Linux box right now, but when I used the snmp utility from IpSwitch on my NT machine is didn't provide any method of reading a mib file. It also couldn't find the attribute you specified. Am I missing something or do I need better snmp software (that hopefully the Linux utils will provide)?
The ucd-snmp tools will load the mibs specified (via the MIBDIRS and MIBS environment variables) upon startup (note, if you have a lot of mibs, this will make startup a tad bit slow...depending on the machine). So...if you don't mind a bit of a sludgy startup, just throw all your mibs in the directory specified in $MIBDIRS, and set $MIBS to "ALL" and you should be almost set. I've had to hack a few mibs around on occasion...and download a few others...but for the most part that should get you started. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Speaking of which... where are the latest MIBs located anyways? I'm getting a lot of unenumerated Enterprise Specific (120) traps, but I thought I had the latest MIBs. Also, I wasn't able to find one of the tables discussed during the modem disconnection thread. Carl Litt Network Administrator Execulink Internet Services
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Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable.
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I tried reading the Hiperarc.mib into PowerTCP's free mib viewer and it failed to compile because of unresolved references. Is the mib dependent on other mib's or could I have a bad one. Still fighting the linux thing... Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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I tried reading the Hiperarc.mib into PowerTCP's free mib viewer and it failed to compile because of unresolved references. Is the mib dependent on other mib's or could I have a bad one.
Depending on what PowerTCP is checking, its quite likely that it will depend on other MIBS. It should (hopefully) tell you what value it needs to resolve or whatever, and likely what MIB it needs to resolve it from. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Well, it looks like I may need a bit of a tutorial on the snmpwalk application. I can't seem to get it to do anything unless I give it the debugging flag in which case it keeps returning my name. I am specifying the OID as a numeric string as the dependency issue is pprbably present on the machine as well. What would be the correct syntax to query for the system info, something not dependent on the hiperarc.mib? What shoudl I expect to see as output? Thanks, Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:44 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question
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I tried reading the Hiperarc.mib into PowerTCP's free mib viewer and it failed to compile because of unresolved references. Is the mib dependent on other mib's or could I have a bad one.
Depending on what PowerTCP is checking, its quite likely that it will depend on other MIBS. It should (hopefully) tell you what value it needs to resolve or whatever, and likely what MIB it needs to resolve it from. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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I got a bit farther. I can now get the 3Com to return the system info, but when I specify a directory containing all the 3Com mibs I get the following: Unlinked OID in RFC1213-MIB (lots of these) system: Bad sub-id in object identifier (system) It doesn't seem to like the mibs that come with the 3Com distro. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Thornton <mark@corridor.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 2:32 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question
Well, it looks like I may need a bit of a tutorial on the snmpwalk application. I can't seem to get it to do anything unless I give it the debugging flag in which case it keeps returning my name. I am specifying the OID as a numeric string as the dependency issue is pprbably present on the machine as well.
What would be the correct syntax to query for the system info, something not dependent on the hiperarc.mib? What shoudl I expect to see as output?
Thanks,
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300
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I tried reading the Hiperarc.mib into PowerTCP's free mib viewer and it failed to compile because of unresolved references. Is the mib dependent on other mib's or could I have a bad one.
Depending on what PowerTCP is checking, its quite likely that it will depend on other MIBS. It should (hopefully) tell you what value it needs to resolve or whatever, and likely what MIB it needs to resolve it from. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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I got a bit farther. I can now get the 3Com to return the system info, but when I specify a directory containing all the 3Com mibs I get the following:
Unlinked OID in RFC1213-MIB (lots of these) system: Bad sub-id in object identifier (system)
Hrmm...try this: grep "RFC1213-MIB DEFINITIONS" * If it doesn't return anything, you need to get that MIB.
It doesn't seem to like the mibs that come with the 3Com distro.
The mibs themselves are pretty much fine...just the mibs identify at the top where they link in to the MIB tree, and the references that they are using are unknown, meaning your mib parser is building up the mib tree, but it doesn't see where this mib that its reading connects in. For example, near the top of the file nmc-mib.txt you'll see something like: usr OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { enterprises 429 } Basically this is telling the mib parser that the node "usr" is the 429th child of the enterprises node. If your mib tree doesn't have the enterprises node, then it doesn't know where to link in the NMC-MIB that its reading. What your error sounds like is that its not finding the node "system" (as a guess), which is the 1st child of mib-ii. So, you *should* be able to find a place with a line like: system OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { mib-ii 1 } this line would usually be found in the RFC1213-MIB that I referenced above. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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Well, it looks like I may need a bit of a tutorial on the snmpwalk application. I can't seem to get it to do anything unless I give it the debugging flag in which case it keeps returning my name. I am specifying the OID as a numeric string as the dependency issue is pprbably present on the machine as well.
What would be the correct syntax to query for the system info, something not dependent on the hiperarc.mib? What shoudl I expect to see as output?
snmpwalk <hostname> <community> should give you basic MIB-II values Something like: quiz:/home/jeffm> snmpwalk <hostname> <community> system.sysDescr.0 = "3Com 17-Slot Chassis with PB clocking" system.sysObjectID.0 = OID: enterprises.usr.usrSysOIDs.chas17SlotClk ... UCD-SNMP will walk the normal mib-ii tree if you don't specify what branch you want to start with. That's a good starting point to work on things...get that working, then you can worry about getting the enterprises branch in shape. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Hmmm... I must have a problem with the ucd snmp program that SuSe installed. When I enter the command as you describe it runs for a bit spitting out a bunch of stuff then generates a segmentation fault. I just downloaded this app from their site and let the installer do its thing. Maybe there is a problem with this? Should I replace it with a different version? Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question
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Well, it looks like I may need a bit of a tutorial on the snmpwalk application. I can't seem to get it to do anything unless I give it the debugging flag in which case it keeps returning my name. I am specifying the OID as a numeric string as the dependency issue is pprbably present on the machine as well.
What would be the correct syntax to query for the system info, something not dependent on the hiperarc.mib? What shoudl I expect to see as output?
snmpwalk <hostname> <community> should give you basic MIB-II values
Something like:
quiz:/home/jeffm> snmpwalk <hostname> <community> system.sysDescr.0 = "3Com 17-Slot Chassis with PB clocking" system.sysObjectID.0 = OID: enterprises.usr.usrSysOIDs.chas17SlotClk ...
UCD-SNMP will walk the normal mib-ii tree if you don't specify what branch you want to start with. That's a good starting point to work on things...get that working, then you can worry about getting the enterprises branch in shape. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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I must have a problem with the ucd snmp program that SuSe installed. When I enter the command as you describe it runs for a bit spitting out a bunch of stuff then generates a segmentation fault. I just downloaded this app from their site and let the installer do its thing. Maybe there is a problem with this? Should I replace it with a different version?
Segfault? Now *that* I don't think I can help you with. :) That doesn't sound like an SNMP or MIB problem there. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
How can I get the OIDs from the MIB file? -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Mcadams Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:45 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question Also sprach David Hamilton
I was going to ask the same question today. I want to retrieve a list of current online users from the hyperarcs.
snmpwalk -R <archostname> <community> usrCipUserName
This didn't work. I have a list of all of the mibs and usrCipUserName isn't in this list. Where did you find this info? Have you verified that it works? If so could you post more info?
Its in a file "hiperarc.mib" that actually contains quite a few mibs, for use with the HiPer Arc's. You *don't* get this information sending the requests to the NMC (well, you *can* get it through the NMC, its just a bit more convoluted to do so :). You need to set up SNMP access on the Arc (or use the NMC as an SNMP relay agent) to be able to access this information. Once you have the Cip-MIB loaded (which is contained in the hiperarc.mib file), then you should be able to access this (usrCipUserName) column of the usrCipPortParamTable. I *believe* the hiperarc.mib file is included with the hiperarc software download zip file, but am not sure on that. If you'd like a copy of the file, I can send it. I'm trying to hit on some of the things that might have caused you a problem...without knowing specifically what you ran into, I can't give you a good answer as to what you're doing wrong. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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How can I get the OIDs from the MIB file?
The full OIDs are not in the MIB file directly. Basically, each object defined tells about the object itself (sometimes its just a node with no information associated with it), what its parent is, and what its id number relative to its parent is. From this information, you can build up the whole tree (theoretically you could do it by hand, but it'd be tedious...this is what mib parsers are for :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
I got to looking in the hiperarc.mib file and it is importing files that I don't have and don't know where to get. These are the mibs that came with all my 3Com install, but I guess that explains it ;) How am I or anyone else supposed to know where to get all the mibs that may be required for a particular client? Isn't this making it awfully hard for something that is name Simple... Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 . - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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I got to looking in the hiperarc.mib file and it is importing files that I don't have and don't know where to get.
Keep in mind that MIB != file. For example, the hiperarc.mib file has quite a few mibs contained in it. I know, for example, that there are several mibs in the hiperarc.mib file that import values from other mibs that are contained within the same file. I had to cut-n-paste one of the mibs in that file to another location in the file actually because the ordering was wrong for the imports (one of the DNS related mibs...don't remember for sure which).
These are the mibs that came with all my 3Com install, but I guess that explains it ;) How am I or anyone else supposed to know where to get all the mibs that may be required for a particular client?
I don't recall where I got mine, but let me know what mibs you need and if I have them, I'll gladly send them on. I just don't remember what needs to be added from the base 3Com mib set to make the ucd parser happy.
Isn't this making it awfully hard for something that is name Simple...
Actually, SNMP *is* quite simple. Actually, the protocol is *extremely* simple...one of the reasons that's its not very efficient. It has a grand total of 4 possible operations (well...originally, newer versions of the protocol have more, GET, GETNEXT, SET and TRAP. You don't *have* to have the mib files for SNMP to work either. Indeed, MRTG uses SNMP and doesn't ever touch a mib file, it just uses the numeric OID's (snmp_session.pm doesn't parse mib files at all if I remember correctly). So, the protocol is indeed quite simple, the mibs are there kinda like DNS, in order to convert numbers into something vaguely human readable, but its not a necessary part by any means. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
I would really appreciate a working copy of the hiperarc.mib and any other mib that is appropriate to monitoring the TCH, possibly the nmc's mib. I have downloaded the ucd-snmp program and will be installing it today. According to it's file list, most of the basic mib files come with the install, but weren't installed on my computer when I took the Linux easy way. Now I get to do it the hard way, but I will probably have a working system in the end. Typical Linux experience. Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Mcadams <jeffm@iglou.com> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) SNMP question
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I got to looking in the hiperarc.mib file and it is importing files that I don't have and don't know where to get.
Keep in mind that MIB != file. For example, the hiperarc.mib file has quite a few mibs contained in it. I know, for example, that there are several mibs in the hiperarc.mib file that import values from other mibs that are contained within the same file. I had to cut-n-paste one of the mibs in that file to another location in the file actually because the ordering was wrong for the imports (one of the DNS related mibs...don't remember for sure which).
These are the mibs that came with all my 3Com install, but I guess that explains it ;) How am I or anyone else supposed to know where to get all the mibs that may be required for a particular client?
I don't recall where I got mine, but let me know what mibs you need and if I have them, I'll gladly send them on. I just don't remember what needs to be added from the base 3Com mib set to make the ucd parser happy.
Isn't this making it awfully hard for something that is name Simple...
Actually, SNMP *is* quite simple. Actually, the protocol is *extremely* simple...one of the reasons that's its not very efficient. It has a grand total of 4 possible operations (well...originally, newer versions of the protocol have more, GET, GETNEXT, SET and TRAP. You don't *have* to have the mib files for SNMP to work either. Indeed, MRTG uses SNMP and doesn't ever touch a mib file, it just uses the numeric OID's (snmp_session.pm doesn't parse mib files at all if I remember correctly). So, the protocol is indeed quite simple, the mibs are there kinda like DNS, in order to convert numbers into something vaguely human readable, but its not a necessary part by any means. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Don't remember the OID's off the top of my head, but there are several Perl scripts that emulate what "pmwho" does on a PM3 or a USR NETserver... you can find links to them all at http://www.dcr.net/~mandrews/usrtoys. There are 3 versions altogether on there (mine is buried under the first link)... Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, Shelbyville www.fark.com: If it's not news, it's Fark. (Or something like that.) On Wed, 3 May 2000, Mark Thornton wrote:
Where would I find a list of the SNMP queries the HyperArc will respond to? I am looking to retrieve a list of current online users.
Mark Thornton San Marcos Internet, Inc. 512-393-5300
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