I'm still finishing off implementing HiperNMC's, and I've got one chassis that's buggin' the snot out of me. Old style NMC works fine; Swap in HiperNMC (8.6.3), and: - no console output no how - sticks at "WAIT" on the LED yet, same HiperNMC in another chassis boots and looks great. The chassis I'm fine in is the old-style dual 45A, the chassis I'm going into is the newer Integrated fan type. The things I can think to try, but are disruptive, meaning early early AM, are: - try in the next slot over (several other cards to move then...) - shut down the entire chassis and try booting it. - Ok ok already: try this HiperNMC in another identical integrated fan chassis and see if it does it there too Now I put in a couple other HiperNMC's in the same scenario and didn't have any trouble at all. What should I be looking at? Anything I've missed? SMT Scott Trautman President/Owner www.gdinet.com Global Dialog Internet 608-240-4638,7fax 2049 Skaalen Road scott@gdinet.com Stoughton WI 53589 Internet Service across Southern Wisconsin