Flashed the NMC up to nm060009 and after 40 minutes of waiting after it reported success and said it was checking nac status with the RN/FL light flashing green and hub status off entirely we tried resetting the NMC via the console. That brought it back to the same state, RN/FL light flashing green and hub status off totally. I removed the NMC NAC and that didn't help then pulled the backend NIC and that didn't help. Also shutdown the chassis entirely and that didn't change anything. I'm still stuck at the flashing green RN/FL light and get nothing on the console except an occasional single character when the nic/nac is reinserted. How do I get it back? Can I use the NORMAL/CLEAR jumper on the NAC to get it into some kind of dumb mode where I can upload some firmware to it to at least get back to where I started? How long should an NMC upgrade actually take on a clear switched lan? J. Henry Priebe Jr. Blue Moon President & Network Administrator root@bluemoon.net net.bluemoon.net - Blue Moon Online System V.90, X2 & K56flex www.railfan.net - The Railfan Network http://www.bluemoon.net mud.bluemoon.net 4000 - MoonMUD bbs.bluemoon.net irc.bluemoon.net - ZUHnet Buffalo, NY IRC Server - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.