Most of us ISP's have tons of 3Com ports needing software. The v.92 upgrade was never promised as free to me so I can say no, I am not loosing anything. 3Com should do a 'get up to date' program that allows ISPs do get into v.92 for a small, not per port fee. Licensing terms have always been a thorn and now with v.92 on the horizon it would be a good time to get on our good sides and maybe win some customers back. As for Patton or anyone else having v.92 ready..... EVERYONE is in BETA, no one has working v.92. But of that list, none (except Commworks/3Com) seem to be charging for it. IMHO v.92 is a bust. Most ISP's will turn off on hold functionality and most of us live in areas where 'quick connect' will probibly not work as the phone systems are marginal. Faster upstream is a good thing, but again, not something I am gonna spend thousands on to offer. Thanks for the response though..... lets see if Commworks/3Com can do a good thing for thier customers. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
Forklift?
If you made a decision with one of our competitors two years ago and wanted to deploy V92 what were your choices. What would you do with that equipment today?
We have EOL our Quad cards and offer Rebates for them back.
Livingston PM3 EOL Ascend 4000 EOL Ascend 4004 EOL Ascend 4048 EOL Cisco 5300 EOL Cisco 5800 EOL
www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/as/as5800/prodlit/1657_pp.htm
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/as/as5300/prodlit/1656_pp.htm
Anyone have any of these? What other's are not upgradeable to V92? All pieces of V92 the ones your customers will ask for. Will your customers say I bought this great new modem with V92 can you give me half of the feature set....
Does Patton have PCM Upstream or V.44? Does any of the competitors have PCM Upstream or V.44? I have been told no.
Who are all the other RAS vendors and what is FREE.
The Total Control 1000 using HiPer System or MultiSpan DSPs need a Software Upgrade. This Software Upgrade is contained in the TCS 4.5 code release.
Tom
"Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> on 02/16/2002 09:36:44 PM
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Oh I have argued that for sometime... And if I don't get one hell of a deal on this stuff (if not free) 3com can kiss our 3000+ ports goodbye. We paid DAMN good money for our equipment and 3com is not about to double dip us. They ripped us off in the past and it won't happen again (promises were broken)...
Cisco (or Patton)... Here we come!
-- Edgar D. Taylor
-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Paul Farber Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 8:31 PM To: Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Cc: Ed Taylor; usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Anybody have v.92 working yet?
<fact> All my other gear gets FREE v.92 upgrades. </fact>
<sarcasm> HUGE, SUPER UMPA-LUMPA advantage for every other RAS verdor on the planet </sarcasm>
<fact> 3COM/Commworks says I gotta buy super this and upgrade that.... basically a forklift upgrade. </fact>
All my other RAS gear gets a simple software upgrade....
<sarcasm> HUGE, SUPER UMPA-LUMPA advantage for every other RAS vendor on the planet </sarcasm>
:)
-- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 Thomas_Goodman@3com.com wrote:
ALL.
Who's quite. My posting on Dec 21st when final Beta was release (actually posted in Jan for some reason) stated a 60 day Beta. Final
release due end of Feb. Look for a posting of Software to Total Service sometime the week of the 25th.
We are releasing V92 (Modem on Hold. Quick Connect & PCM Upstream) and
will also have V.44 compression. Our competitors from what ISPs tell me have only MOH and QC. Advantage Total Control Users.
Thanks,
Tom
"Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net>@mailman.xmission.com on 02/16/2002 05:45:20 AM
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Does ANYONE have v.92 working yet on 3com?
If not I wonder why. 3com should have released v.92 months ago... And all has been quite recently about it.
-- Edgar D. Taylor
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