CEM is only $750 or so from a reseller for 1-5 devices and unlimited clients but we have to wait for some time to get it though - I *really* don't understand that - still waiting to hear back from Souce-T on the "to my door" details. The only thing I think sucks is that the DSP v92 code that most of us paid for last year is just now getting usable and then 4.7 comes out with new DSP code almost a year to date after the supposed offical release that probably works better. Making us up our contracts, buy new management software to get fixed code we were promised last year is the kicker - and potentially the only real legal snag in their release. If I were Commworks I would ensure their server base of v.92 was better than the competitors and everyone out there had the most stable and compatible code - no amount of income would offset consumer's bad reaction to an ISPs server platform (AKA the old days and pre-v90 56k vendor standards - mostly chaos). I've been doing this since 1995 and can tell you it was better years ago in terms of a two-way street between USR server (Commworks) and it's customers who purchased the hardware. But the hardware was about $30k or more for a 48 port chassis. It's been dropping for years. The late release of the ARC, code bugs in all of their Hiper products over time and software support issues haven't made the last three years fun - isn't that the time since 3com has owned them? Funny huh. Marshall Morgan Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) http://www.netdoor.com 601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax 601.969.3838 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Farber" <farber@admin.f-tech.net> To: <usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [USR-TC] 4.7 worth it ??
hahahahahaha
yeah, us small ISP we dont need that thar 'reliability' the you city slicker folks talk about so much.
I gotta go to the outhouse now.... be back soon.
Commworks... why do we even bother? :)
-- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Steve Brown wrote:
Thomas_Goodman@3com.com writes:
If you don't need the ability to put 1,152 ports in one chassis using Mulit-Spans look at the TCS 4.7 release notes and decide if there is really any need to move past TCS 4.5 and the ER code for DSPs. If not then TCM is not an issue.
Yup, I see many issues on the HiperARC that no one with less than 1,152 ports would possibly want! Some of the issues fixed since 4.5 that a small ISP could care less about are:
o ARC crashes for no reason o IP Pools stuck in "removing state" o ARC does not release IP's from IP pool o ARC crashes if you type "list interfaces" when the system is idle
Obviously these are all trivial bugs unworthy of wasting time on an upgrade.
Steve
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