Since everybody gave good compliments to VOP RADIUS, I am playing with the demo. Since I cant just unplug my current RADIUS server yet, is there anyway to have the Arc try the primary server then check the secondary server. Basically I created a unique user on the secondary server (one that is not on the primary server) so that I can experiment. But from what I can tell the Arc never even tries the secondary server it just has me retry my password, and I see the failed logins on the primary servers logs, but I never see anything on the secondary servers logs. Any ideas? Thanks Timothy C. Bohen CMSInter.Net LLC / Crystal MicroSystems LLC =========================================== web : www.cmsinter.net email : Tim@CMSInter.Net phone : 989.235.5100 x222 fax : 989.235.5151