I have an older NMC, the kind I worked with for many years, but have drawn a blank on what to try when it won't respond on the console port. All DIPs are down on it, isn't their one I can toggle to maybe clear it out? I do remember its possible to brick an older NMC, and possibly that is the case with this one. Also if someone remembers the feature enable string that shows v90, I am looking for that as well. Thanks for all the help, Brian ----------------------------------------------- I'm buying used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny e:signal@shreve.net CCNP+Voice/ATM/Security p:318.222.2638x109 CCDP f:318.221.6612 Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.