This is slightly off topic but related to dial up in general. Does anyone use or have tried the acceleration services from SlipStream Data (www.slipstreamdata.com) or Fourelle (www.fourelle.com) ? These are acceleration services that require you to put a special server on your network and a client on your PC. The software on the PC acts as a proxy (usually transparent) which communicates with the server to compress web pages and alter image files. Fourelle uses a proprietary protocol called "reliable UDP" to communicate with the server because TCP takes longer. Fourelle can proxy (speed up) all the common internet protocols while SlipStream Data only does HTTP at the moment. Fourelle will have a Mac client available soon whereas SlipStream Data only works on Windows. Both of these can work over dialup, wireless, DSL, cable, etc.. Fourelle actually got started with this as a wireless application. I believe a major hotel chain started using it to compress data being sent to via satellite. Also, something else intriguing. On our network we have a CacheFlow server (known as a client accelerator). After researching these two services I have discovered that the CacheFlow is kinda out of date because there are other accelerators that clean the web pages and images. These accelerators are intelligent because they know where in a web page the white space can be cleaned. They can also reduce the sizes of image files. For example SpeedWise (www.speedwise.com) sells proxy software for Solaris that intelligently removes the white space from web pages, reducing the overall size of the web page. There are similar products or appliances from RedLine, Packeteer, Boostworks and FineGround. I just thought these new ideas were incredible. Fourelle has been around since at least 2001 and I don't know about SlipStream Data. Some of the reviews I read were from 2001 so the products should have been improved. A couple of ISPs using this software are www.madbbs.com, www.gladenet.com , www.net1Plus.com , www.trellis.net Bill Dunn