I have both PM3s and Cisco AS5248s that were purchased at the same time as my TotalControl Hiper systems and that won't ever see v.92 loaded onto them. Some of my Hiper equipment just turned 3 years old, and the fact that it's even able to migrate to the latest standards is something I value. Now I'd rather not have to pay for that, but after 3 years of use I don't think that the replacement of 1 card to bring an entire chassis up to an entirely new standard is such a terrible thing. Maybe 3Com would consider a trade-in program for the NMC. It would cost considerably more to move all of my ports to another vendor than it would to simply upgrade the NMC. Mike Wilker Director of Network Operations Tiger Communications DBA Local Link USA, Globaleyes Comm, Protocom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Taylor" <ed@1st.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com>; <Thomas_Goodman@3com.com> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: RE: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? Mr. Goodman, Does 3com feel good about how they are going to distribute v.92? When others are giving it away? and encouraging all the 3com ISPs to switch with some nice incentives? We have competitors that have v.92 and it didn't cost them a dime... 3com needs to realize that we have paid handsomely for our equipment and if they want ISP's to continue to support and stick with them they should be considering upgrades for this stuff for free or relatively cheap. Oh and please do not say "if you are under a support blah... blah... blah". You are in the equipment business... we bought the equipment... not 3com's terrible support... we do our own support and do a very good job of it I might add. Oh and I am NOT alone on this one... 75% on this list feel the same way I do. Some of which have done a lot in the past to help grow 3com with their own support. We have well over 2500 ports and we are NOT happy! Also... we are STILL waiting on those 5 Palm Pilots we were promise 2 years ago. Thank you, -- Ed Taylor -----Original Message----- From: owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-usr-tc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thomas_Goodman@3com.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 8:29 PM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (usr-tc) V.92 - anyone there yet? V.92 was posted for Beta last week (August 23, 2001). I have asked for some official words to submit to this list. Anyone looking to be a part of the Beta would need to fill out the Beta form on Total Service. Min Requirements for V.92 HiPer DSP HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC or Multi-Span New ARC or 56bit VPN ARC 333MHz NMC Hardware Requirements for Multi-Span Blade (96-port card) HiPer ARC w/ 128MB HiPer NMC Note: Max number of ports that these cards will handle is 450 ports. ( you could add 4 multi-spans to a Total Control 1000 with 48 ports of HiPer DSP) The new 333MHz NMC and New ARC will handle 672 ports. More to follow. Tom Goodman RAS Specialist (United States) - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.