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the brilliant Jellybean (correct?) remixes from the early 80's, i haven't heard one decent one,

Yeah, you mean those remixes on that 12" of If You Love Somebody...? I also think the Voices DJ mixes are good. Of course, I'm probably alone in that. Indeed Teri, actually I forgot those ,-)) those voices remixes are brilliant as well but those IYLSSTF remixes were just top quality, just like all remixes from those time that sounded more like an extended version of the original song and not an unrecognisable mambojambo thing like most are nowadays ... Karel _