Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter. Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed. This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible. Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise. David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot in my opinion, he is consistantly acting like an ego maniac, he thinks he is everything and a bowl of rice. He has treated his former band mates with much disrespect. Anyone who has followed Sting from the beggining must be disappointed with his behavior and music. Need I mention that everytime I turn on the TV I am ready to puke at this monster he has become. Pop sellout, Commercial Sellout, Designer Sellout, need I go on, Sting has lost musical appeal, that was why I was a fan!!!! I wonder If some of you really know the musician Sting is? I wonder how he could move into this Nsync Pop Icon role? Whenever I am disheartened, I submerse myself into my vast vault of Police/Sting before BND and I forget the computerized rhythms of a brand new day!!! Like I said before Go Stewart!! I Predict Sting forms a Police reunion within a few years. ( this is what I think will happen). Right now Sting is pop's Grandpa, Stewart is Rocks Elder!!!!
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
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We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again. Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter.
Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed.
This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible.
Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot in my opinion, he is consistantly acting like an ego maniac, he thinks he is everything and a bowl of rice. He has treated his former band mates with much disrespect. Anyone who has followed Sting from the beggining must be disappointed with his behavior and music. Need I mention that everytime I turn on the TV I am ready to puke at this monster he has become. Pop sellout, Commercial Sellout, Designer Sellout, need I go on, Sting has lost musical appeal, that was why I was a fan!!!! I wonder If some of you really know the musician Sting is? I wonder how he could move into this Nsync Pop Icon role? Whenever I am disheartened, I submerse myself into my vast vault of Police/Sting before BND and I forget the computerized rhythms of a brand new day!!! Like I said before Go Stewart!! I Predict Sting forms a Police reunion within a few years. ( this is what I think will happen). Right now Sting is pop's Grandpa, Stewart is Rocks Elder!!!!
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
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The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved. Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music. Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting. David --- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter.
Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed.
This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible.
Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot in my opinion, he is consistantly acting like an ego maniac, he thinks he is everything and a bowl of rice. He has treated his former band mates with much disrespect. Anyone who has followed Sting from the beggining must be disappointed with his behavior and music. Need I mention that everytime I turn on the TV I am ready to puke at this monster he has become. Pop sellout, Commercial Sellout, Designer Sellout, need I go on, Sting has lost musical appeal, that was why I was a fan!!!! I wonder If some of you really know the musician Sting is? I wonder how he could move into this Nsync Pop Icon role? Whenever I am disheartened, I submerse myself into my vast vault of Police/Sting before BND and I forget the computerized rhythms of a brand new day!!! Like I said before Go Stewart!! I Predict Sting forms a Police reunion within a few years. ( this is what I think will happen). Right now Sting is pop's Grandpa, Stewart is Rocks Elder!!!!
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
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David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!! take Care, Terrence Sheehan PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter.
Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed.
This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible.
Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot in my opinion, he is consistantly acting like an ego maniac, he thinks he is everything and a bowl of rice. He has treated his former band mates with much disrespect. Anyone who has followed Sting from the beggining must be disappointed with his behavior and music. Need I mention that everytime I turn on the TV I am ready to puke at this monster he has become. Pop sellout, Commercial Sellout, Designer Sellout, need I go on, Sting has lost musical appeal, that was why I was a fan!!!! I wonder If some of you really know the musician Sting is? I wonder how he could move into this Nsync Pop Icon role? Whenever I am disheartened, I submerse myself into my vast vault of Police/Sting before BND and I forget the computerized rhythms of a brand new day!!! Like I said before Go Stewart!! I Predict Sting forms a Police reunion within a few years. ( this is what I think will happen). Right now Sting is pop's Grandpa, Stewart is Rocks Elder!!!!
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
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Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting. So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great? Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today! David --- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter.
Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed.
This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible.
Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot
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David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on. Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level. I was disappointed in Stewart and I certainly hope that he is enjoying the noise he is currently making with Oysterhead because a classy and real musician like Sting would never entertain the garbage Oysterhead is disguising as music. It seems Stewart is regressing to his Police punk days but even the punk days of the Police, the music still had some harmony to it. Come on, go to http://www.oysterhead.com and tell me where the music is because I am totally lost. The best thing there is the background music that is looped on the website. That group is in serious need for a songwriter.
Yes, the BND tour was over commercialized but at least it was still A1 music being performed.
This new album All This Time proves the naysayers that Sting IS still willing to take risks, even I did not believe the project would work but in the end, he succeeds brilliantly. The new arrangements are fantastic and the band incredible.
Anyone who knows anything about music would laugh at the comparison of Oysterhead and Sting, Sting is on such a higher level, give me a flickin break! Anyway, to each his own, enjoy the noise.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: I know I will buy it just because I'm nostalgic, something I think STin(g)(k) has become, I don't think any of the people who are singing the praise of Oysterhead need to have their head examined. Oysterhead is new, original, from a musicians stand point " Nothing I've ever heard Live is better". Sting is a musical genius, I think all of these people appreciate that, !!! but Sting has shot himself in the foot
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Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument are put to light! You already caused a member to leave the list! David --- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting
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Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument is put to light! You already triggered one member to leave. David --- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting
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Hey Pal now I am *issed, I will always reserve the right to call it as I see it. This is a free mailing list, I have posted my opinions with no disrespect to anyone. (including yourself). Furthermore, I read her post and in all essence she agreed with me. Maybe you should read it again. But, I tell you this, I will not refrain from my opinion, as that is what makes this list a great place. If people leave the list because of my honest post, than so be it!!! I have been on this list a long time, seen lots of people come and go. So as to your post asking me to quit dissing Sting, I don't think I am dissing Sting, I am posting my opinion!! obviously you have missed many parts of my emails where I said Sting is a Great Musician. I will continue to post my opinion to the list, and if you don't like something, Oh well, why is it any hair off your back?, unless as they say the truth hurts. Most everyone on this list is a friend of mine, her email mentioned many negative feedbacks about Sting, why should I be singled out. I am however man enough to stand up for what I believe without running away. When I think Sting is great again you will be the first to hear about it. Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument is put to light! You already triggered one member to leave.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize Stewart untill you see Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live performance is everything, If you have not seen them live then, you should have no opinion. I saw Sting on the BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, Oysterhead was by far the better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, stylish suites, Jaguar's and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right now. If Jamming Music is your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right to your opinion, although I wonder how long you have been following Stings solo career, It has steadily declined from a great musical performance to a corporate computer showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. Sellout!! I know he will come around in time, then we will all be a happy family again.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
> What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying > in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting
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Hey David, if you're surprised that Stewart would say "_uck The Police", let me ask if you have any idea what was written on his drums during a large period of time when The Police were together? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrence Sheehan" <sheehansound@earthlink.net> To: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com>; <stingus@yahoogroups.com>; <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: [stingus] Supressed Opinions, NOT!!!!!!!!!!Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!
Hey Pal now I am *issed, I will always reserve the right to call it as I see it. This is a free mailing list, I have posted my opinions with no disrespect to anyone. (including yourself). Furthermore, I read her post and in all essence she agreed with me. Maybe you should read it again. But, I tell you this, I will not refrain from my opinion, as that is what makes this list a great place. If people leave the list because of my honest post, than so be it!!! I have been on this list a long time, seen lots of people come and go. So as to your post asking me to quit dissing Sting, I don't think I am dissing Sting, I am posting my opinion!! obviously you have missed many parts of my emails where I said Sting is a Great Musician. I will continue to post my opinion to the list, and if you don't like something, Oh well, why is it any hair off your back?, unless as they say the truth hurts. Most everyone on this list is a friend of mine, her email mentioned many negative feedbacks about Sting, why should I be singled out. I am however man enough to stand up for what I believe without running away. When I think Sting is great again you will be the first to hear about it.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument is put to light! You already triggered one member to leave.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and anywhere close to the complexity of Sting's music.
Brand New Day is a great album, in my top 3 of favorite Sting albums, I have followed Sting's music for a while and if you really believe the Oysterhead junk might trigger a Police reunion from Sting, you must be dreaming. Andy Summers has taken the sophisticated route, maybe Andy's solo stuff might nudge Sting into a reunion, but certainly not Oysterhead and with Stewart's comment about "F*ck the Police", I hope now there is never ever a Police reunion, I am shocked at him for saying that. Since you are a musician, please provide details in the chord structure, arrangement, lyrics, bridges (none of which exists in Oysterhead BTW), is superior to Sting.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote: > We all have our opinions, but I would'nt criticize > Stewart untill you see > Oysterhead live, with Oysterhead the live > performance is everything, If you > have not seen them live then, you should have no > opinion. I saw Sting on the > BND tour shook his hand, I saw Oysterhead live, > Oysterhead was by far the > better show for the musician. If high cheekbones, > stylish suites, Jaguar's > and Computers are your bag, Sting is your man right > now. If Jamming Music is > your focus go see Oysterhead. I respect your right > to your opinion, although > I wonder how long you have been following Stings > solo career, It has > steadily declined from a great musical performance > to a corporate computer > showcase, where the seats go to the highest bidder. > Sellout!! > I know he will come around in time, then we will all > be a happy family > again. > > Take Care, > Terrence Sheehan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> > To: <police@xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO > Go Stewart !!!!!!!!! > > > > What could be more disrespectful than Stewart > saying > > in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting
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Comparing Stewart Copeland with Sting's drummers isn't really a serious comparison. They're apples and oranges. ALL of Sting's drummers are jazz drummers. Comparing those guys to each other would be worth talking about, maybe! But Stewart doesn't fit into that category really. Vinnie, Manu, Smitty Smith, Omar, etc.. are all jazz drummers. I personally like the Police better than Sting solo because of the sound those three created. It was a lot more raw and powerful than Sting's solo career. Don't get me wrong. I'm a big Sting solo fan. I've to every Sting concert since 1988 when I was 15. And I as a bass player/singer, I would rather choose Stewart as my drummer than any of Sting's other drummers because I love Stewart. He's my favorite musician who's not a bass player. His improv and reggae-flavored drumming is the best. As for a click track running while they're playing, it's not that these drummers need a click track to play in time. There is some sort of sequencing that's being run during the particular song. I don't care that Stewart said "eff the Police". It's not like he wouldn't do a Police reunion if Sting asked him to. But who cares either way 'cause there will never be a Police reuion. (Unfortunately) Ken P.S. The answer to the question previous is, of course, "*uck off *sshole". Later! --- Steve Sayad <stevess@saber.net> wrote:
Hey David, if you're surprised that Stewart would say "_uck The Police", let me ask if you have any idea what was written on his drums during a large period of time when The Police were together? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrence Sheehan" <sheehansound@earthlink.net> To: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com>; <stingus@yahoogroups.com>; <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: [stingus] Supressed Opinions, NOT!!!!!!!!!!Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!
Hey Pal now I am *issed, I will always reserve the right to call it as I see it. This is a free mailing list, I have posted my opinions with no disrespect to anyone. (including yourself). Furthermore, I read her post and in all essence she agreed with me. Maybe you should read it again. But, I tell you this, I will not refrain from my opinion, as that is what makes this list a great place. If people leave the list because of my honest post, than so be it!!! I have been on this list a long time, seen lots of people come and go. So as to your post asking me to quit dissing Sting, I don't think I am dissing Sting, I am posting my opinion!! obviously you have missed many parts of my emails where I said Sting is a Great Musician. I will continue to post my opinion to the list, and if you don't like something, Oh well, why is it any hair off your back?, unless as they say the truth hurts. Most everyone on this list is a friend of mine, her email mentioned many negative feedbacks about Sting, why should I be singled out. I am however man enough to stand up for what I believe without running away. When I think Sting is great again you will be the first to hear about it.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument is put to light! You already triggered one member to leave.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
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So what is calling him stink mean, your words "STin(g)(k)"? Then the ego thing, last time I remember seeing Sting act like an egomaniac was with the Police, that was over 15 years ago, yet you say "but Sting has shot himself in the foot in my opinion, he is consistently acting like an ego maniac". Then the crap about "He has treated his former band mates with much disrespect", when nothing could compare with "F*ck the Police". Then dissing the man's music with "Sting has lost musical appeal" and "Right now Sting is pop's Grandpa, Stewart is Rocks Elder!!!!" If that is your way of saying Sting is a great musician, I would hate to see you say he sucks. David --- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hey Pal now I am *issed, I will always reserve the right to call it as I see it. This is a free mailing list, I have posted my opinions with no disrespect to anyone. (including yourself). Furthermore, I read her post and in all essence she agreed with me. Maybe you should read it again. But, I tell you this, I will not refrain from my opinion, as that is what makes this list a great place. If people leave the list because of my honest post, than so be it!!! I have been on this list a long time, seen lots of people come and go. So as to your post asking me to quit dissing Sting, I don't think I am dissing Sting, I am posting my opinion!! obviously you have missed many parts of my emails where I said Sting is a Great Musician. I will continue to post my opinion to the list, and if you don't like something, Oh well, why is it any hair off your back?, unless as they say the truth hurts. Most everyone on this list is a friend of mine, her email mentioned many negative feedbacks about Sting, why should I be singled out. I am however man enough to stand up for what I believe without running away. When I think Sting is great again you will be the first to hear about it.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Dude, next time you make your groundless statements dissing Sting, be prepared to take the heat when flaws in your argument is put to light! You already triggered one member to leave.
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, I asked you to let it rest, I realize nothing I say will sway your opinion. You are having no effect on my opinion which is why I suggested you let it rest. I wrote my posts from personal opinion, If you don't agree that is fine, that's the beauty of the list. Let's move on.
Take Care, Terrence Sheehan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
Ahhh, give me a break, the point is you say you are a musician, I asked you to list how is Oysterhead superior to Sting, you have no answer. Obviously even you are well aware of the superior arrangements and music in Sting.
So what if Manu uses a click track? Manu was Zildjian's drummer of the year, the most respected manufacturer of cymbals. Do you really believe Zildjian would choose Manu if he weren't great?
Your God, Stewart, used a click track while in the Police, what do you think is in the background of Walking in Your Footsteps, King of Pain, Synchronicity One on the Synchronicity concert. Vinnie Colauita and Omar Hakim, far better drummers than Stewart also used a click track. In fact, most drummers (outside of traditional jazz) in the music world today use some sort of drum machine or sequenced music, it's reality today!
David
--- Terrence Sheehan <sheehansound@earthlink.net> wrote:
David, In all due respect nothing you say would impress me at this point, You have listed Manu, do you realize he is playing with a click track there? Where is the musicianship in that. I think at this point it is best to say we disagree at the most extreme ends, and that it is best to move onto another topic, for us and the list. You will never sway my thinking and I know I won't sway yours. Go Stewart!!!
take Care, Terrence Sheehan
PS. Brand New Day is Stings worst album to me, To you #3( I think that says it all)
----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <whayuhsay@yahoo.com> To: <police@xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Police] Re: [stingus] Oysterhead HBO Go Stewart !!!!!!!!!
The only musician that Oysterhead could be better for is maybe the drummer but then again, that is personal opinion. Some drummers might find Stewart too loud or one dimensional, others might find Manu too reserved.
Maybe to musicians in Iron Maiden and the rest of the Acid Rock crowd might prefer Oysterhead but real musicians, not of that hard rock garbage would automatically take a liking to Sting, and yes I say real musicians because most of that hard rock junk is one chord noise, NOT sophisticated musically and
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What could be more disrespectful than Stewart saying in a recent interview "F**K the Police", Sting has never stooped to that low level.
Because what Stewart said has something to do with "passion." Sting, on the other hand, released ALL THIS TIME...and continues to make the most disrespectful gestures yet! So long, Clarissa.
Hi everybody from giovann, in Milano. Everybody knows I am a big Police fan, but it doesn't seem correct to compare Sting and Stewart Copeland careers. They made two different choices: Sting, choosed a very difficult choice, going on with commercial stuff trying to give something new at the same time. Stewart Copeland choosed a completely different way of working inthe music businness. WE ALL KNOW they both got talent, probably less interesting than in the past, but they still have a great technic and they know how to use it. Sting got Universal Records on his back, and when you choose this way of making music, sometimes you have to deal with commercial 'stuff', but that's not important when you know you are doing your job and you are honest with yourself. With Oysterhead Stewart choosed a different kind of promotion, based on live appearances because is the only way to let people know what the project is about; musical skills are the main themes in this project, not melodies or singles riffs. I can't see any reason why someone should compare those two different choices. Everybody knows the commercial stuff is more interesting for a certain number of people and everybody knows stuff like Oysterhead are interesting for a minor number of people, but that doesn't mean someone is better than another. Classical and Jazz music are the 6/7% of the music market, but that doesn't mean such records are less important than commercial music selling more; I would say exactly the opposite! I simply hope Sting, Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland will keep on giving us such interesting records, as we ALL KNOW the three of them never release something not interesting (whether we like it or not!). Ciao ciao Giovanni
That sums it up quite well Giovanni. todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni" <giovanni.pollastri@libero.it> To: <police@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: [Police] Why compare Sting and Stewart?
Hi everybody from giovann, in Milano. Everybody knows I am a big Police fan, but it doesn't seem correct to compare Sting and Stewart Copeland careers. They made two different choices: Sting, choosed a very difficult choice, going on with commercial stuff trying to give something new at the same time. Stewart Copeland choosed a completely different way of working inthe music businness. WE ALL KNOW they both got talent, probably less interesting than in the past, but they still have a great technic and they know how to use it. Sting got Universal Records on his back, and when you choose this way of making music, sometimes you have to deal with commercial 'stuff', but that's not important when you know you are doing your job and you are honest with yourself. With Oysterhead Stewart choosed a different kind of promotion, based on live appearances because is the only way to let people know what the project is about; musical skills are the main themes in this project, not melodies or singles riffs. I can't see any reason why someone should compare those two different choices. Everybody knows the commercial stuff is more interesting for a certain number of people and everybody knows stuff like Oysterhead are interesting for a minor number of people, but that doesn't mean someone is better than another. Classical and Jazz music are the 6/7% of the music market, but that doesn't mean such records are less important than commercial music selling more; I would say exactly the opposite! I simply hope Sting, Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland will keep on giving us such interesting records, as we ALL KNOW the three of them never release something not interesting (whether we like it or not!).
Ciao ciao Giovanni
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