Re: [Police] The secret ingredient
Andy just released Metal Dog. Sting is doing... something I assume? Stew is... probably being Grandpa Copeland with all his kids... I know they're busy and totally comfy. That can't possibly lend itself to a new album. They'd need to have fire and desire again, it's how getting things done in general works. None of them want conflict because they have the money to make conflict go away in their day to day lives, right? It would be tough to put them back together, not being comfy and arguing. Do I think they COULD make something pretty cool if they put in the time? Yeah. If Bowie can, they can too imo. Do I think they will...? I actually think that with some prodding from more modern producers and maybe some collaboration, I think Sting could churn out some incredibly literary and smart lyrics, Andy and Stew could lend all sorts of interesting bits and pieces, I just think that they'd need to let go of the Police sound, to a degree. I don't know. I love this discussion, though! David [Man in a Suitcase] On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:15 AM, <hilcem@yahoo.fr> wrote:
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Don’t get me wrong : I’m a dedicate fan of The Police since I first heard them in 1979 and saw them live in 1980 .I saw them for the reunion tour. What a memory before entering in the arenas with The Police music in the headspeakers .. I love the shows because it was nostalgia !! But it was nothing compared when I saw them in 1980 and in 1983. Of course I was 13 at the time but it was magical ; There was a musical connection that lacked in 2007 . Of course they played well in 2007 but unfortunately the magic that made the trio at the height of their carreer was gone. But if you asked me if I’m craving for a new album I ‘ll say yes of course. But again my feelings will be shared. Of course I’d like to hear what would The Police will sound like in 21rst century but of course comparison will be made with the 5 legendary albums. I know the question of age is important though surely they are at their height concerning their musical skills, but what about creation, ardour that go with youthness.
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So true and I agree, except Sting did some exceptional stuff on Dream of the Blue Turtles and Summoner's Tales.
Everyone was better when they were hungry and full of angst. Now they're all rich and fat and happy, there's no grist for the mill, as they say.
And now Sting must be licking his wounds after his colossal Broadway Fail. That was a shocker all right! But poor Sting,,,,,, didn't he realize that this was the 21st Century when he wrote that play? It was such a cliche of the plays of the 70's and 80's. As if he had been mesmerized by broadway back then, and couldn't wait to try it himself.
Well, he virtually wrote a Rice clone, 20-30+ years too late.
All that talent, financial backing and opportunity lost in a time-warp.
Can we drag them into the 21st century and get some new inspiration for them? After all of Sting's interesting collaborations, I'd think he'd be up with the times, and amenable to collaboration with some contemporary artists.....not 20th century artists, 21st century artists.
As a matter of fact, I'm beginning to consider a moratorium on ALL music performed in the 20th century in my house. It's time to move on and make some music that isn't just re-warmed crap from the past.
But I was spoiled by being Born in the 50's and surrounded with new sounds and musical excitement almost every day til Disco showed up and then everything kind of petrified in place. Even rap, as a relatively new medium, relies too heavily on snatches of that very washed up diluted, enough enough enough music that used to be new and influential.
Wow, where did all of that come from? Guess I'm ready for something new and exciting!
Let's go ex-Police-men, delight and excite me!
diggie
*From:* Chris Babcock <csbabcock20@gmail.com> *To:* Police Mailing list <police@mailman.xmission.com> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 2:42 PM *Subject:* [Police] The secret ingredient
I know some of you disagree with me, but I always thought the work that happened as The Police still stands as better than any of the work the guys have created as individuals.
This article isn't about them, but it does a really good job of articulating my theories about what made the band so great:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/22/9593334/mythbusters-final-season-relations...
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".........Yeah. If Bowie can, they can too imo........" And look at Elvis Costello. He stayed active and courant, even while collaborating on old style songs ( burt bacharach) He's retained his signature sound but keeps making new-sounding music. Maybe he was lucky enough to stay unhappy so he could retain his song-writing skills.....;-) Sorry.... From: David <dripdry@gmail.com> To: M.A <hilcem@yahoo.fr> Cc: "Police@mailman.xmission.com" <Police@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Police] The secret ingredient Andy just released Metal Dog.Sting is doing... something I assume? Stew is... probably being Grandpa Copeland with all his kids... I know they're busy and totally comfy. That can't possibly lend itself to a new album. They'd need to have fire and desire again, it's how getting things done in general works. None of them want conflict because they have the money to make conflict go away in their day to day lives, right? It would be tough to put them back together, not being comfy and arguing. Do I think they COULD make something pretty cool if they put in the time? Yeah. If Bowie can, they can too imo.Do I think they will...? I actually think that with some prodding from more modern producers and maybe some collaboration, I think Sting could churn out some incredibly literary and smart lyrics, Andy and Stew could lend all sorts of interesting bits and pieces, I just think that they'd need to let go of the Police sound, to a degree. I don't know. I love this discussion, though! David [Man in a Suitcase] On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:15 AM, <hilcem@yahoo.fr> wrote: Provenance : Courrier pour Windows 10 Don’t get me wrong : I’m a dedicate fan of The Police since I first heard them in 1979 and saw them live in 1980 .I saw them for the reunion tour. What a memory before entering in the arenas with The Police music in the headspeakers .. I love the shows because it was nostalgia !! But it was nothing compared when I saw them in 1980 and in 1983. Of course I was 13 at the time but it was magical ; There was a musical connection that lacked in 2007 . Of course they played well in 2007 but unfortunately the magic that made the trio at the height of their carreer was gone. But if you asked me if I’m craving for a new album I ‘ll say yes of course. But again my feelings will be shared. Of course I’d like to hear what would The Police will sound like in 21rst century but of course comparison will be made with the 5 legendary albums. I know the question of age is important though surely they are at their height concerning their musical skills, but what about creation, ardour that go with youthness. De : Diggiedog Envoyé le :vendredi 23 octobre 2015 22:11 À : Chris Babcock;Police Mailing list Objet :Re: [Police] The secret ingredient So true and I agree, except Sting did some exceptional stuff on Dream of the Blue Turtles and Summoner's Tales. Everyone was better when they were hungry and full of angst. Now they're all rich and fat and happy, there's no grist for the mill, as they say. And now Sting must be licking his wounds after his colossal Broadway Fail. That was a shocker all right! But poor Sting,,,,,, didn't he realize that this was the 21st Century when he wrote that play? It was such a cliche of the plays of the 70's and 80's. As if he had been mesmerized by broadway back then, and couldn't wait to try it himself. Well, he virtually wrote a Rice clone, 20-30+ years too late. All that talent, financial backing and opportunity lost in a time-warp. Can we drag them into the 21st century and get some new inspiration for them? After all of Sting's interesting collaborations, I'd think he'd be up with the times, and amenable to collaboration with some contemporary artists.....not 20th century artists, 21st century artists. As a matter of fact, I'm beginning to consider a moratorium on ALL music performed in the 20th century in my house. It's time to move on and make some music that isn't just re-warmed crap from the past. But I was spoiled by being Born in the 50's and surrounded with new sounds and musical excitement almost every day til Disco showed up and then everything kind of petrified in place. Even rap, as a relatively new medium, relies too heavily on snatches of that very washed up diluted, enough enough enough music that used to be new and influential. Wow, where did all of that come from? Guess I'm ready for something new and exciting! Let's go ex-Police-men, delight and excite me! diggie From: Chris Babcock <csbabcock20@gmail.com> To: Police Mailing list <police@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 2:42 PM Subject: [Police] The secret ingredient I know some of you disagree with me, but I always thought the work that happened as The Police still stands as better than any of the work the guys have created as individuals.This article isn't about them, but it does a really good job of articulating my theories about what made the band so great:http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/22/9593334/mythbusters-final-season-relations... _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police | | L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. www.avast.com | _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police
On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:24 PM, David <dripdry@gmail.com> wrote:
Stew is... probably being Grandpa Copeland with all his kids...
Stewart has had a lot going on lately and coming up in the future. There's the (incredible) Ben Hur orchestral score to the original silent film which he performed live twice last year, in Virginia and Chicago (with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra), and has several performances scheduled for next year in California, Washington and Europe. He did a wonderful short tour performing a mix of his original compositions and classical reworkings with pianist Jon Kimura Parker, "Off The Score" which will be touring again next Spring. Saw two of the shows this year and am looking forward to the upcoming performances. He's got a new piece premiering in Pittsburg in February and a newly commissioned opera with a preview of some of the music scheduled for January in New York. That's just a few things coming up...there's a very good updated summary thread here: http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11120 Let's just say he's quite busy and I'd rather keep enjoying these great complex works from Stewart than pining for a re-hash of pop rock of the 80s. sockii
sockii, you're awesome! Ben Hur performance at the Valley Performing Arts Center about 20 minutes from my place. worth going? March 16th. Anyone else going, perhaps? On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, sockii <sockii@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:24 PM, David <dripdry@gmail.com> wrote:
Stew is... probably being Grandpa Copeland with all his kids...
Stewart has had a lot going on lately and coming up in the future.
There's the (incredible) Ben Hur orchestral score to the original silent film which he performed live twice last year, in Virginia and Chicago (with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra), and has several performances scheduled for next year in California, Washington and Europe.
He did a wonderful short tour performing a mix of his original compositions and classical reworkings with pianist Jon Kimura Parker, "Off The Score" which will be touring again next Spring. Saw two of the shows this year and am looking forward to the upcoming performances.
He's got a new piece premiering in Pittsburg in February and a newly commissioned opera with a preview of some of the music scheduled for January in New York.
That's just a few things coming up...there's a very good updated summary thread here:
http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11120
Let's just say he's quite busy and I'd rather keep enjoying these great complex works from Stewart than pining for a re-hash of pop rock of the 80s.
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:54 PM, David <dripdry@gmail.com> wrote:
sockii, you're awesome!
Ben Hur performance at the Valley Performing Arts Center about 20 minutes from my place. worth going?
Definitely worth going IMHO...I saw both the Virginia and Chicago shows, and Virginia was actually better as the orchestra was more rehearsed for the material. If you want to see Stewart performing pretty much non-stop for 90 minutes, you really can't go wrong. And the score works much better here to the edit of the silent film than compared to the "live" show in Europe a couple years back. sockii
Maybe? I'm moving in January, but whether I live in LA or Atlanta depends on how much money I manage to save up. Cali would be better for a couple of reasons, but it's so expensive I don't know if I can do it. If I'm there and finding work then I hope to be able to see this show. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 12:57 PM David <dripdry@gmail.com> wrote:
sockii, you're awesome!
Ben Hur performance at the Valley Performing Arts Center about 20 minutes from my place. worth going? March 16th. Anyone else going, perhaps?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, sockii <sockii@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Oct 26, 2015, at 12:24 PM, David <dripdry@gmail.com> wrote:
Stew is... probably being Grandpa Copeland with all his kids...
Stewart has had a lot going on lately and coming up in the future.
There's the (incredible) Ben Hur orchestral score to the original silent film which he performed live twice last year, in Virginia and Chicago (with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra), and has several performances scheduled for next year in California, Washington and Europe.
He did a wonderful short tour performing a mix of his original compositions and classical reworkings with pianist Jon Kimura Parker, "Off The Score" which will be touring again next Spring. Saw two of the shows this year and am looking forward to the upcoming performances.
He's got a new piece premiering in Pittsburg in February and a newly commissioned opera with a preview of some of the music scheduled for January in New York.
That's just a few things coming up...there's a very good updated summary thread here:
http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11120
Let's just say he's quite busy and I'd rather keep enjoying these great complex works from Stewart than pining for a re-hash of pop rock of the 80s.
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