Dear Jp, I can understand Your disappointment. Many times Mr. Sting has put us fans to the test. Remember Roxanne '97. I hate it. Definitely. I know it will NEVER grow on me. But then this doesn't necessarily reflect the direction Sting has taken afterwards. You can blame the Man for trying to appeal the masses which inevitably leads to some very commercial "shores". But then what would You think if he would choose a more "conservative" attitute just to please long time fans... probably the same kind of accusation would arise. Everybody here knows that he has taken a very risky decision to go solo when The Police were at the peak of their success. He bet and in my opinion he won. But speak with other people on the list and they may tell you the exact contrary. Drum machines, the "Kipper heavy touch" the remixes... all this also I dislike... But SL is surely not an album to forget about. I try to approach the new material with an open mind and I must admit that some songs are really growing on me. In the end Sting's sheer class will emerge maybe for a moment maybe in an entire song. This surely was the case at the Olympia concert in Paris. Maybe the show wasn't flawless but it was really magic. And believe me after all these years I'm an hard to please fan... Yo! Maurizio From ITALY ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim and Christine To: police@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [Police] Growing From a proud but disappointed fan who has decided not to buy this album: Can we also conclude that the CD "grows on you" after you. 1.. Lock yourself in a room with no other sensory stimulation but this album playing over and over for 5 days 2.. Turn up the bass and turn down the mids (sure the barely audible vocals become intelligible when you do this but that's what liner notes are for) 3.. Sublimate Kipper's drum loops with Vinnie's live drums in your mind 4.. Receive validation from other people on the list that you really do like the album I thought that radio already fulfilled this roll of playing songs over and over and over until you decide you finally do like them and decide to buy them. The problem with sticking with an artist and forcing yourself to make their taste your own is that it gives you very little time to appreciate new artist who might be as talented as Sting *gasp*. I apologize for the nasty tone of this e-mail. I don't mean to offend I just want to get my opinion across. Personally, I will continue to skip the over produced (and badly produced) studio crap and wait to here the songs raw when he does them live. That is when he really shines. Ciao. JP -----Original Message----- From: police-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of HM Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:39 AM To: police@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Police] Growing Can I conclude the CD is growing on those of us list members who had the priviledge to listen to it so far? We start relationships with certain types of people and hope it is growing on us. We move into a house in our favourite area and hope living in this house will grow on us. We buy a car of a certain brand even if it does not feel right from the start - hoping the drive will grow on us. We buy clothing of our favourite brand in the trust it will soon feel right on our skin. And we buy music in this trust the songs will grow on us. DON'T WE? Where are the proud but disappointed Sting fans that have decided NOT to buy this album? Let's not forget about the future and get on with the thought that this album would have been made available on emusic right away. You could purchase each song separately for 99 cents a piece - which ones would lead the download list?? Would you download a second track after being disappointed about the first one? With single-track download, the album character disappears - where is the chance for a musician to tell a story? How can then "a list of tracks" grow on us? Thinking of this, I want to forget about that future, get on with the present and hope that albums will always remain being available as a whole "book". Just another 2 cents I could not hold back. Holger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police