Thanks karel and Steve for sticking up for us! As I told Karel, I must admit, I was rather amused and excited by Dieter's comments, and I don't think he is absolutely wrong! Ask anyone in STUNG and they will tell you that those demos we posted on our site DO suck! But it gives a flavor for the spirit of the band. We recorded it for free and did it the same week we had decided to even do the project, no rehearsals! We have gotten better in recent months, and I guess Steve caught us this weekend when we got to play all night and got to really stretch songs out and go deep into the catalog. (Tell him to say hi next time!) But in the spirit of fairness, I feel compelled to put Dieter's comments on our buzz list page! I mean, lets be honest, why put just all the positive praise fro oneself? Now THAT would be pretentious (sp?) I guess it is just that the response to STUNG has been so overwhelmingly positive, it was nice to finally hear someone rip us a new one! Gotta keep us in check. I mean, he had the balls to send it directly to me, which I admire. So, thanks Dieter, for being honest and ballsy. I appreciate that quality in a person! And thanks to Karel and all at StingUs.net, as well as the xmission list for being so supportive. Rock on! Steve, hope to see you this weekend with some "boots"! Cheers, Bee STUNG www.stunglive.com