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Re: [Police] what they could do...
by Angeline Adams 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

@David: Stewart and Andy seem to still be going on creatively. Can I say that for > Sting? hmmm.... Yes, in a way I can. However, I'm not sure it's the kind > of > creativity that really moves me as much as it used to.... or does it? For > the unbelievers, I ask that you at least consider that Sting just doesn't > have the right atmosphere or backing in which to plant his lyrics. That > was > why I hated Sacred Love. The SONGS were neat, the lyrics seemed pretty > good, actually, but the techno-crud just slaughtered my emotional > connection > to it. I like Sacred Love more than a lot of fans seem to, but I have to agree that it feels neutered and unadventurous as a whole. When I look at the songs that I most like on that album, it's the ones that have the least mannered, most passionate sound - and where you can hear Sting using a good musician playing a real instrument to great effect. I loved the sitar on The Book of My Life, and the guitars on This War. Inside no doubt had more mixing and samples going on in the background than I would notice, but it worked because of the intense vocal build towards the end. And Send Your Love had that flamenco guitar to balance the more artificial stuff. Whereas I'd not care much if I never heard the rest again... So, with all the music and interesting beats and styles available for FREE > over the internet now, I really feel as though the Police could fire back > up > in a HUGE way! For instance, I listened to a turkish dance tune on > Chicago > Public Radio the other night, and was blown away at how out there it was, > while stll retaining a danceable style. There's a song called Vittrad by > Garmarna that's played only with traditionally ancient Celtic instruments, > and it builds passionately to an almost heavy metal-like frenzy > of ululations and clashing sounds. Tinariwen with their middle-eastern pop > combined with Creedence Clearwater guitars. Persian, Cambodian, African, > Celtic, psychedelic folk-rock techno, Neo Funk, Mongolian throat > singing... > come on guys! Creative, out-there, wild music is an IN thing! It > hypnotizes people now more than ever! Big Label Music is OUT, the time for > embracing Different, Thoughtful, and Engaging music is here, *right where > The Police BELONG*, and it gets out to bazillions of people with the touch > of a button! Oh, and those people are willing to pay for a good > experience, > too. Funny how that works, where it's not necessary to squeeze fans for > every last penny. Exactly; this is the kind of thing that frustrates me. There's a whole lot more going on musically in the world than we get to hear in mainstream rock, and at their best all three guys have been good at incorporating cleverness with passion and doing stuff that is different, but not in a gimmicky way. Angeline

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Re: [Police] thank you all for this great debate
by Bokulic, Colin 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Thankyou for being on this list Giovanni. I truly appreciate the updates you have passed on to us over the years. -Colin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:50:31 +0100 From: "Giovanni Pollastri" <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> Subject: [Police] thank you all for this great debate To: "Mailing LIst Police" <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <004201c88881$4db056a0$c6693997@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What can I say, it's a pleasure to talk to all of you; ISUN is one of the best place to be; nice people, good debates, real opinions with the right criticism...it's a great mailing list and I'm happy it's still alive and kicking! You all know since the early days of this mailing list that I have the chance to talk to the three of them, but as you can see I'm always a little shy to talk about it; first because sometimes I may be seen like someone that puts in front of everybody the fact that I can have what other respectable fans can't have...I just told you a few things in my latest couple of messages as I thought it would be good to share such informations with you all talking about that issue; second thing, sometimes I feel a great respect for what Andy, Sting and Stewart tells me in confidence that I feel a little afraid about sharing something that maybe they won't just tell everybody...maybe it's just me; I try to think about these things when I share some informations that the band tells me; I guess they just trust me, probably not as they trust a journalist....(seen what happened on my Stewart web). Thanks for reading, thanks for your friendship; I don't even know most of you in person but I know you are out there and that makes a better world. Giovanni _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference.

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If
by Mike 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Gio The police should come with new material cause no other band has come back Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Police] A few thoughts
by Bokulic, Colin 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

I would even be happy with a rock instrumental album with just Andy & Stewart (if Sting won't budge!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Langele <slangele(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Police] Fwd: Re: A few thoughts / Miles, Kim, Ian To: Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it>, Mailing LIst Police <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <93229.42613.qm(a)web52512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Giovanni, You know, that's a pretty accurate response. Not everybody will be happy whatever the Police end up doing. I was very interested in your short little story about fellow Police-fans you knew when they did Zenyatta. I can't even imagine anybody not liking Zenyatta Mondatta. I see their side though, it certainly was nothing like the previous two albums. They were much more punkish, raucous in their sound and Zenyatta could definitely be considered more commercialized. I, like you, really have not heard a Police or Sting album I have not liked. Even Mercury Falling, which everyone is soooo quick to disparage. I think that I too would just be happy if they did some more recording of just about anything. Considering there's nothing i have never not liked by any of them(I even like Last Exit), I don't think there would be a problem. You have a great insight into their lives and I am envious that you are able to even talk to them on what seems like a pretty regular basis, let alone ask them, what sounds like just about anything you want to... I certainly hope to read one day, a post from you with some great news.... Thanks for the discussion. Steve _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference.

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And now for something completely different......
by Anne Robinson 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

from our Police album/tour dialogs.I came across this on Amazon today and couldnt remember seeing it on the list before so I thought Id share just in case. ~Anne "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." Sting's List of Music You Should Hear "(Sittin' on) The Dock of the Bay" ~ Dreams <http://www.amazon.com/Dreams-Remember-Otis-Redding-Anthology/dp/B000009NKC/ ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_3> to Remember: The Otis Redding Anthology, Otis Redding You can't get better than Otis Redding. "Hideaway" ~ Bluesbreakers <http://www.amazon.com/Bluesbreakers-Clapton-Mayall-Blues-Breakers/dp/B00005 K9QP/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_4> with Eric Clapton, John Mayall This was my guitar album--I learned every song note for note. Eric was taking and reworking ideas from people like Freddie King. When I played guitar with the Blue Turtles band I could work through clichés, but I'm no blues guitarist. "Sweet Baby James" ~ Sweet Baby James <http://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Baby-James-Taylor/dp/B000002KB3/ref=cm_syf_dtl_ txt_5> , James Taylor You can scratch the surface of my songs pretty lightly and you'll find someone who wanted to be James Taylor at the age of 14. He's also a brilliant and ridiculously underrated guitar player and blessed with a voice that could melt ice caps. Rope <http://www.amazon.com/Rope-Ladder-Moon-Jack-Bruce/dp/B00009PABK/ref=cm_syf_ dtl_txt_6> Ladder to the Moon, Jack Bruce I was actually more keen on Jack's work after he left Cream, especially this superb record. Jack had a certain formalism that attracted me--he wasn't just a plodder. Here was a bass player who sang--which is impossible--and had a jazz sensibility. I finally had a musical role model to look up to. "The Wind Cries Mary" ~ Are You Experienced <http://www.amazon.com/Are-Experienced-Jimi-Hendrix-Experience/dp/B000002P5Y /ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_7> , Jimi Hendrix I loved Jimi's harder stuff, but this showed a much gentler and deeper side of him. I recorded a version of this with John McLaughlin, and I've never worked with such an extraordinary guitarist. His musical intelligence is just off the scale. "Subterranean Homesick Blues" ~ Bringing <http://www.amazon.com/Bringing-All-Back-Home-Dylan/dp/B00026WU9Q/ref=cm_syf _dtl_txt_8> It All Back Home, Bob Dylan I think this was one of the first videos I remember seeing. I bought the original 45. I love this song. I love the lyrics even though I never quite knew what they meant. It's a great song and he's a great artist and he really inspired me. "So What" ~ Kind <http://www.amazon.com/Kind-Blue-Miles-Davis/dp/B000002ADT/ref=cm_syf_dtl_tx t_9> of Blue, Miles Davis I play "So What" almost once a week because I find it stimulating intellectually to hear those guys exploring the range of their talents. You can hear their personalities come through so clearly. A wonderful conversation between instruments. Hymn <http://www.amazon.com/Hymn-Seventh-Galaxy-Return-Forever/dp/B0000046X0/ref= cm_syf_dtl_txt_10> of the Seventh Galaxy, Chick Corea/Return to Forever Basically an exercise in demi-semiquavers we used to do in my old band Last Exit. I remember doing a gig with a big band and we supported Return to Forever. I had never seen anything like it! "Smells Like Teen Spirit" ~ Nevermind <http://www.amazon.com/Nevermind-Nirvana/dp/B000003TA4/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_11 > , Nirvana The energy of the Sex Pistols linked with a brilliant sense of melody. Kurt used considerable musical intelligence to carefully construct statements that sounded offhand. Link that skill to powerful energies and you've got something unique. I just wish he'd seen music as a way to heal his soul. I do think he would have got to that point eventually. "Big Bottom" ~ This Is Spinal Tap <http://www.amazon.com/This-Spinal-Tap/dp/B00004WGVQ/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_12> , Spinal Tap "'Ow much more black could it be? None more black!" The Ghost of Tom Joad <http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Tom-Joad-Bruce-Springsteen/dp/B000002BFL/ref=cm _syf_dtl_txt_13> , Bruce Springsteen The great thing about Bruce is that he's exactly as he seems, A great man. On "The Ghost of Tom Joad" I realised very quickly reading the lyrics that he'd upped the stakes. I think it's the best record he's done. "Shaking the Tree" ~ Shaking <http://www.amazon.com/Shaking-Tree-16-Golden-Greats/dp/B000065V9S/ref=cm_sy f_dtl_txt_14> the Tree: 16 Golden Greats, Peter Gabriel and Youssou N'Dour I first met Youssou with Peter several years ago when we worked together on an Amnesty tour. Both of them have such extraordinary voices and Peter has done a lot to promote world music in general and that should be acknowledged as it's been a one man crusade on his part. "Paper Sun" ~ Mr. <http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Fantasy-Traffic/dp/B00004WF68/ref=cm_syf_dtl_txt_1 5> Fantasy, Traffic I loved the band Traffic for their way of creating a musical universe without these boundaries, because whether it's country, pop, gospel, heavy metal or classical music, it's all a single language, a code. "Tempted" ~ Singles <http://www.amazon.com/Singles-45s-Under-Squeeze/dp/B000002GE7/ref=cm_syf_dt l_txt_16> 45's and Under, Squeeze One of my favourite songs that I never wrote was "Tempted" and I did actually cover it. It's a great song, and Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook are great songwriters. Squeeze were always a great band, and it was nice to cover it.

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Re: [Police] A few thoughts
by Chris Ryan 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

On 16-Mar-08, at 2:18 PM, police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > You know, that's a pretty accurate response. Not everybody will be > happy whatever the Police end up doing. I was very interested in > your short little story about fellow Police-fans you knew when they > did Zenyatta. I can't even imagine anybody not liking Zenyatta > Mondatta. I see their side though, it certainly was nothing like > the previous two albums. They were much more punkish, raucous in > their sound and Zenyatta could definitely be considered more > commercialized. I remember the reaction to that album quite well. It was definitely the case that there was something of a backlash; the "serious" fans were somewhat put off. (I believe all three band members have since said it was a rush job.) I recall a couple of critics defending "De Do Do Do" but also remember my best friend's younger sister latching onto the group and their becoming a phenomenon, and Sting a sex symbol. Shouldn't have mattered that much to me (wouldn't now), but I was only about eighteen, and I didn't like the album as much as the previous two. I sort of (stupidly) forgot about the group until I was won over again by "Every Little Thing" a year or so later. Although I still think that, at least sonically, "Ghost" was a disappointment as well. I know a lot of Police fans don't love Synchronicity (i.e., "Stingronicity"), but I though it was a strong progression and return to form. And it still sounds great, in terms of production, twenty- five years on, which in my opinion is more than you can say for "Ghost." > I, like you, really have not heard a Police or Sting album I have > not liked. Even Mercury Falling, which everyone is soooo quick to > disparage. Mercury Falling was the last Sting CD I listened to more than once or twice. I haven't even heard the last two (lute included). But when someone posted a YouTube video of "I Hung My Head" a few weeks back, I realized (again) how much I had by that time become an unquestioning "fan." It's pretty dreadful stuff, in my opinion. I missed the "Dream" tour (didn't come near me); saw the "Nothing" tour in Toronto which I thought was great largely because of the musicians involved; saw the "Soul Cages" tour in Vancouver which I thought was great as I loved the smaller band and Sting seemed to be having a really good time and it was very musical; saw the "Summoner's" tour in Vancouver and remember thinking when he worked "Invisible Sun" into "Every Breath" at the end that it made perfect sense to get the Police back together as he'd said what he needed to solo. But he continued to spin his wheels, and I saw the "Mercury" tour in Mountain View, California, and it felt pretty flat to me. Then I bailed; diminishing returns. Buying a new Police or Sting album used to be an Event for me; I could tell you what shop and with whom I bought almost every one. But that ended. There's so much great music now, I rarely listen to Sting or The Police. Occasionally something will come up on shuffle on my iPod and makes me smile. I'm glad I saw the reunion tour in Vancouver, but life goes on. There's lots of great music out there. I'm not a "classic rock" kind of guy. I'm listening to, and seeking out, the next Police. Chris

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Fwd: Re: A few thoughts / the old style
by Steve Langele 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

>Why is whether or not they have a "hit" the barometer of success? I >couldn't care less how many people listen to it. I don't think it's a >stretch to argue that most of the best new music these days doesn't >top the charts, or even reach them. Who cares? What difference does it >make? I agree Chris, most of the stuff I listen to these days rarely makes it on the charts. However, most likely it matters to the boys. I agree with this line of thinking too, Colin. It might not matter to us or many others, but I think that if these guys don't have something "solid" and a sure success, they aren't going to risk releasing what might be considered a flop in regards to their previous success.... >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... Very good point Steve, NO ONE plays drums like Stewart can, and with Andy's trademark guitar sound, whatever Sting writes would be filtered through these guys like it used to. It wouldn't be another Sting album with Andy and Stewart as guests Giovanni, you hit the nail on the head wen you say that I would like to hear the old Police style again... Nothing would make me happier I tell you!! I have a few bootlegs from the reunion tour, but mostly I have bootlegs from shows they did in the 70s and 80s. I can't help it!! I love the energy and the long vamps where Sting just adlibs the lyrics, like Can't Stand Losing/Regatta de Blanc... One of my favorite song combos they did then and now live. I loved hearing that on this tour!! But, I know what you mean. I don't expect to hear the old sound; it just isn't going to happen. But, at the same time, I just don't think that it will be totally lost if they record anything new. They are not the same musicians anymore, they have all grown tremendously, but I think that when they all get together, they cant help but play like "the Police".... I know you of anybody has the most reliable runours/gossip, and if they were going to record something, you would have said so long go. I don't expect anything to happen, but of course I wish it to. Mario, thanks for the positive response to my thoughts... However, I did share some of those "other" thoughts too. I just sorta re-thought it all, cause I too, as I just stated, would love to have a Police album like the old days. And if they wouldn't write one like that, I didn't think I would want one either. But, of course I'd love to hear new material one way or the other. I always loved hearing a new Sting album, cause it was always interesting to see where his style was going next. I might not necessarily have liked it as much as the previous, but for me, it was still Sting and his music and absolutely no reason for me to hate it. Same if the Police were to record new stuff. I might not like it the same as before, cause it won't be the same old sound, but it will be a Police album and it may just take me some time to get used to it, but more than likely would end up loving it..... Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> wrote: From: "Giovanni Pollastri" <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> To: "Mailing LIst Police" <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:50:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / the old style >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, >there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Steve, I can understand that you like many others may like something like the old Police style, but they are 30 years older now, they are different people, they have different needs, they have complete different lives from those times, there are complete different discography rules, different managers, different tastes.... people change, and I'm afraid their style could be different...maybe better, maybe not... When Stewart, before the reunion was announced, told me that they could work on new stuff mixing all their different musical experiences (Taranta, Jazz, Reggae, Electronic, Fusion, Brazilian, ecc....) I was thinking that they were coming back as they found the right formula to release something definitely new and interesting under the name THE POLICE; they did not, for different reasons, but I am sure they thought a lot about it, they talked a lot, they even tryed to work on those new songs for what I know, but everything was killed from the beginning. Giovanni Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material...I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me
by foxie 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material...I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" <casimar(a)yahoo.com> To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me
by foxie 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

It wasn't meant to sound "arrogant", and if you interpret as "stupid", Mario, that is your prerogative, Mario. I guess we'll see...we'll see what his Sting's next solo record sounds like. And when it comes out, if there is a Police-esque sounding tune on it, point it out to us... Best To All, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Mario <marspala(a)yahoo.com> To: Steve Langele <slangele(a)yahoo.com>; Mailing LIst Police <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:44:22 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me STeve this is a better response that those other stupid ones we have been seeing. " I don't think he will going back to Police writing style" give me a freakin break that sounds so stupid. Your response is well thought out and makes more sense Steve Langele <slangele(a)yahoo.com> wrote: But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Hey! Great posts by Chris and, of course, G. Thx guys! Those hardcore fans are truly caught between the rock and the hard place aren't we? When the tour was announced...and I first heard scuttlebutt that a new record was being planned, I was VERY excited. But as the months have passed, the more I thought about it...the more I think that I do NOT want it to happen. And the reason is this...I don't believe that Sting can go back to writing songs in the Police style. And I am not talking about early-Police material....I am talking about "Ghost" and SYNCHRONICITYesque material. I believe not only is he disinterested in doing it...but that he couldn't do it if he tried...because he has been away from writing in that vein for so long. Think of it...what benefit would Stewart give to "A Thousand Years"? What could Andy do with "Desert Rose"? And that is not an attack on Sting's solo material. I love it...well, up to MERCURY FALLING anyway. (And BRAND NEW DAY has "loving" moments on it for me as well.) But...BRAND NEW DAY and SACRED LOVE...THAT is the material that Sting is writing at present...do you think that those tunes are Police material, Police "worthy". I don't. As I mentioned before...I look at this reunion as as way for Sting to go on hiatus...to recharge the songwriter battery within him. And when the fruits of that hiatus bloom, nothing like "Driven To Tears" of "Secret Journey" is coming out. Truth Hits Everybody, Truth Hits Everyone, Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Giovanni Pollastri To: casimar(a)yahoo.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:56:27 AM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts / Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me >Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I see your point Christopher, but we don't have to consider ouselves as the main element to take care of; WE are a minority, we hardcore fans see things in a different way than the rest of the world, the usual radio listener, the usual magazine reader, etc.. etc.. Dont'get me wrong when I say I don't believe in a new album; I am a great fan and I'd love to see a new album that would sound as great as the previous five albums, but if they won't release it, I'm afraid they have nothing in their hands that could top that sound and image. Nothing wrong with that; at least they haven't ruined their fame like too many other bands have done keeping working together for years and years releasing records that get out of catalogues in three years! If they have to release a new record they have to 'shock the world', not only the fans. Giovanni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Simar" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >I was trying not to get in on this one, lol, but I > just wanted to agree with Giovanni. I wouldn't want a > "crap" Police album. But I don't think it's likely. > > Even the bad nights on this tour were magic to me. I > have filled my hard drive with mp3s of them despite > the repetitiveness of the set, the lack of obvious > experimentation, etc. The Police, playing ANYTHING, > are magic. I would love to hear a new song or two. > > 'Solo Sting,' however, has made an increasingly high > percentage of things that I can't really get behind, > starting in the late 1990s and falling from there. I > enjoy his later studio albums at first, then rarely > re-listen. I don't always catch him on tour. The > lute album and the 9/11 live album, I can't listen to. > > I just feel like Sting should do something with The > Police, or just retire. His "legacy" is important, > too, right? And if he can't come up with material > that Andy could do something with (Andy can do > ANYTHING, is my opinion) then, well, he probably can't > come up with good enough material to release under > anyone's name, even his own solo name. That's just my > two cents. I fear my hero has peaked. And I was > hoping The Police would revive his old vitality. > > I don't think I'm in this for nostalgia, at least not > entirely.. I am in it for whatever "it" is that only > those three guys can do, even just noodling around. > I'd rather hear The Police play than hear session > musicians hired by Sting, be that on old or new > material. I respect his right to do that, but that > doesn't mean I have to like it. (But I hope I do.) > > Christopher > > > --- Giovanni Pollastri > wrote: > >> What if they will do a crap album? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mario >> To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [Police] A few thoughts >> >> >> >> >> bottom line they should do an new album just to >> surprise everyone and go through with the challenge >> >> this solo stuff is just crap for now > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2945 (20080313) __________ > > Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 > http://www.nod32.it > > _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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Re: [Police] thoughts...a few
by Bokulic, Colin 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

>Why is whether or not they have a "hit" the barometer of success? I >couldn't care less how many people listen to it. I don't think it's a >stretch to argue that most of the best new music these days doesn't >top the charts, or even reach them. Who cares? What difference does it >make? I agree Chris, most of the stuff I listen to these days rarely makes it on the charts. However, most likely it matters to the boys. >But at the same time, isn't it possible that these guys could reinvent themselves? I mean, there would have to be something remaining of the "old" Police in their writing style. Sting's writing and playing styles have changed of course, but he wouldn't be writing his solo stuff. Isn't it possible for him, as well as Andy and Stewart of course, to incorporate his(their) current influences and somehow come up with a newer sound that is still "Police-like"? As hard-headed and domineering as he is over Andy and Stewart, I would like to think that they would not just let him walk all over them, especially Stewart. I don't know. It's all just speculation anyways, and probably nothing will happen. They'll finish their tour and go about their seperate ways again.... And we'll all be left wondering... Very good point Steve, NO ONE plays drums like Stewart can, and with Andy's trademark guitar sound, whatever Sting writes would be filtered through these guys like it used to. It wouldn't be another Sting album with Andy and Stewart as guests. _____________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail communication, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail and then destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this e-mail communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of TIG. TIG does not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference.

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