ah...pompey mark - i know i have dl'd some good stuff from you via soulseek in the past - many thanks! for some reason i can't access your files now but know that is part of the deal with using soulseek - sometimes things work and sometimes they don't. anyways - for those that are unable to access mark's files and have no where else to turn i have a number of orb videos (i believe under my orb - video file) but alas do not have much in the way of live video recordings. smkraft --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site!