Ok, ok.... Since I'm new, I missed a few things - could someone please fill me in: 1) Is Thrash on the list? If not, was he asked to leave and, if so, WHY?!? 2) What is the blackbanana.dyndns.org address and how does it relate to Thrash? Thanks. Phil __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com