Sounds like kidnapping the family member is the only option that will make them see sense - don't forget to request some cool new sony goodies in the ransom note! I'm still trying to locate that "triple cd box-set bootleg" that Alex mentioned: "Full Copenhagen Trokronner gig 1993 - sunset & sunrise sets". Someone must have a duplicate that they could share/exchange/swop for bag of loot. Please? cheers, bbroo P.S. Listening to B&T again, I'm surprised that Alex hasn't made a cheesy Christmas song yet. _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)