Hi out there, what a discussion right here. Don´t forget all the musicians in the past, I think all of them gave a lot to the old sound of the orb, and that´s the thing that happens on the new system 7 release for example, in that case Steve Hillage takes a part, where you can hear on Orblivion or sometimes cydonia that kind of pitched Synthies. Sorry, to say that but if I could mix them out, I would like that records much more. But I like Cydonia, the problem is that a songstructure they choosed has a much more remaining effekt than the throwing around Ambience of earlier times. You remain the Cydonia record much more in your mind than older ones. But that´s the fact of making music with lyrics, so you can´t really say it´s a bad record, it´s something else. But that´s just my opinion. Cy, Christoph from Dortmund, Germany Do someone know that one? Harmonia 76 Tracks &Traces Roedelius, Rother , Moebius & Eno what a wonderful record. -- Spiegel-Leser wissen mehr! Bestellen Sie hier Ihr persönliches Abo: http://bonus.gmx.net/?gid=41442879&prid=173