I saw one cool label (fuck me if I can remember which one) that had a subscription service where you paid $9 and could download all you wanted. It seems the d/l's were all 128kbps mp3s and had no restrictions. I personally wouldn't buy anything that has to stay on my computer because I don't really listen to music on my computer. When I'm not eating up all my RAM running my ShoutCast servers then I'm using it as a music workstation to create or I'm ripping cds to mp3 so I can burn them to take with me. Most of my listening is either done in the studio room with the dj decks or in my van with my portable mp3 cd player. What I would suggest is a cheap subscription that allows d/l of 96kbps or 112kbps copies of songs. They sound good but not perfect and if someone liked the music enough to crave hi-fi they could then buy the full on cd as they should. By the way, my ShoutCast servers are running almost all the time if you want to listen. It's mostly rebroadcasts of recent live shows with a few new tracks every three hours or so. I run at 112kbps stereo (4 listeners max) and 24kbps mono (1 listener max) and it takes about 5 hours to repeat. www.ifpr.homestead.com/ifprradio.html will link you to the proper ShoutCast directory page. Just happy to contribute to the sudden explosion of fun e-mail on the list, Alan Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com