I hope all you Londoners and your friends and family are well. It is awful. Sorry our President failed to take care of Bin Laden when he could.
But thank god we took Sadam out of power cuz we're so much safer and.. wait.. how does that work? On 7/7/05, Mailing Lists <zmailinglists@psychicreform.com> wrote:
I hope all you Londoners and your friends and family are well. It is awful. Sorry our President failed to take care of Bin Laden when he could.
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yea the only WMD's Saddam had was a dodgy supply of tampons if we wanna make the UK safer we need to get Rid of Blair and Bush, and relace em with........ oh never mind Matt Schieffer wrote:
But thank god we took Sadam out of power cuz we're so much safer and.. wait.. how does that work?
Whilst I can understand peoples frustrations/disappointments with our respective glorious leaders, as someone who lives close to London and heard the bus blast whilst sat at my desk today, it is nice to hear from people who are prepared to put the griping out of the way for one single day in support and respect for the hundreds of people injured/maimed/killed. Whilst I do not support the position our leaders have put us in, I wholeheartedly abhor what happened today in London and my sympathies and condolences go out to all those in pain/grief and who have suffered at the hands of ignorant fuckers. Please can we show a little decorum with some restraint in memory of those lost. And back to orb related matters, did anyone see the article on the BBC news site on Tuesday about Bill Drummond's soup line? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4654301.stm Chris Currently listening to: Sueno Latio - Sueno Latino and William Orbit - Barber's Adagio for Strings -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Wright Sent: 07 July 2005 20:49 To: Matt Schieffer; What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London yea the only WMD's Saddam had was a dodgy supply of tampons if we wanna make the UK safer we need to get Rid of Blair and Bush, and relace em with........ oh never mind Matt Schieffer wrote:
But thank god we took Sadam out of power cuz we're so much safer and.. wait.. how does that work?
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Yeah, Clinton sure did a good job against the terrorists (read: Muslims). (If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.) (NO religion is a religion of peace.) Not that Bush (Reagan, and many before) have been much better. The one main thing is I hope this wakes up some Europeans as to the nature of the threat instead of just bashing the US about it. T "You wanna know how you do it? Here's how: They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue." - The Untouchables
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Wright Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:49 PM To: Matt Schieffer; What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
yea the only WMD's Saddam had was a dodgy supply of tampons if we wanna make the UK safer we need to get Rid of Blair and Bush, and relace em with........ oh never mind
Matt Schieffer wrote:
But thank god we took Sadam out of power cuz we're so much safer and.. wait.. how does that work?
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Tim C wrote:
Yeah, Clinton sure did a good job against the terrorists (read: Muslims).
Silly, ignorant & inflammatory statement #1.
(If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.) (NO religion is a religion of peace.)
Silly, ignorant & inflammatory statement #2.
The one main thing is I hope this wakes up some Europeans as to the nature of the threat instead of just bashing the US about it.
Good thing you've got it all sussed, then. Since you're obviously an expert on religion, politics and the "real" nature of the threat, all everyone has to do is lay down their arms and declare you god, king and knower-of-all-that-stuff. Puh-leeze. If you can't do any better than that, please refrain. If you can't at least be semi-constructive as you state your unsupported opinions, you could try working on not being so haughty. Ask yourself what good might come from those remarks. They sound like lost verses from the Team America: World Police theme. jeff
Anyone that disagrees with my assessment is, in fact, and I do mean in absolute, pay attention to reality (there is only one folks), actual fact, incorrect. I will not bother to argue this, so please don't argue back - if you disagree, you're part of the problem. Lack of reason is what is destroying the earth - faith leads to force - there is no other way. One way or the other, Atlas WILL shrug one day. T PS - yes, W's religion is a grave concern. He's FAR from perfect. PPS - actually, if your argument goes beyond just stupid "oh you're wrong" statements I might find the time to argue my case. But first, really, Rand wrote plenty on this - check the Ayn Rand Institute's website for relevant essays on religion. www.capmag.com is another great place to start. And if you really think Islam is a religion of peace, maybe www.littlegreenfootballs.com might provide you with relevant material to reconsider your position (yes, there are a lot of religious conservative people in the forum; they aren't all right by any stretch either - but you'll get a lot more than you imagine on just exactly what the Muslim world domination plan and STATED mission are - that people amazingly ignore even when they ARE aware of it) than you likely thought possible.
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:54 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Tim C wrote:
Yeah, Clinton sure did a good job against the terrorists (read: Muslims).
Silly, ignorant & inflammatory statement #1.
(If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.) (NO religion is a religion of peace.)
Silly, ignorant & inflammatory statement #2.
The one main thing is I hope this wakes up some Europeans as to the nature of the threat instead of just bashing the US about it.
Good thing you've got it all sussed, then. Since you're obviously an expert on religion, politics and the "real" nature of the threat, all everyone has to do is lay down their arms and declare you god, king and knower-of-all-that-stuff. Puh-leeze. If you can't do any better than that, please refrain. If you can't at least be semi-constructive as you state your unsupported opinions, you could try working on not being so haughty. Ask yourself what good might come from those remarks. They sound like lost verses from the Team America: World Police theme.
jeff
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Anyone that disagrees with my assessment is, in fact, and I do mean in absolute, pay attention to reality (there is only one folks), actual fact, incorrect. I will not bother to argue this, so please don't argue back - if you disagree, you're part of the problem. Lack of reason is what is destroying the earth - faith leads to force - there is no other way.
Wow. A megalomaniac. I don't need your websites to inform me about Rand, as she was one of my thesis topics in one of my degrees. YOUR faith is a system which contradicts basic Aristotelian principles of logic while claiming to be built on them and shows a great deal of ignorance - both in the system to which you adhere and of the religions you do not understand. Having spent 6 years of study in the latter field myself, I speak with (not expertise, but) some clue. You might ask yourself which religion Pol Pot claimed. Or not. Because then you'd have to argue with yourself and since your assessment is absolutely correct, you will probably have to self destruct. Or maybe tape yourself up with explosives and take as many of the non-Radian true believers with you. jeff
I'm only replying to this drivel to point out that your statement that I have faith underscores your complete ignorance in this matter, regardless of whatever degrees you got from whatever flawed educational institution(s). It is astonishing how someone who has actually been educated in this field (in some fashion) can be so utterly, completely, myopically incorrect. Or, I wish it were. T $
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:09 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Tim C wrote:
Anyone that disagrees with my assessment is, in fact, and I do mean in absolute, pay attention to reality (there is only one folks), actual fact, incorrect. I will not bother to argue this, so please don't argue back - if you disagree, you're part of the problem. Lack of reason is what is destroying the earth - faith leads to force - there is no other way.
Wow. A megalomaniac. I don't need your websites to inform me about Rand, as she was one of my thesis topics in one of my degrees. YOUR faith is a system which contradicts basic Aristotelian principles of logic while claiming to be built on them and shows a great deal of ignorance - both in the system to which you adhere and of the religions you do not understand. Having spent 6 years of study in the latter field myself, I speak with (not expertise, but) some clue. You might ask yourself which religion Pol Pot claimed. Or not. Because then you'd have to argue with yourself and since your assessment is absolutely correct, you will probably have to self destruct. Or maybe tape yourself up with explosives and take as many of the non-Radian true believers with you.
jeff
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Tim C wrote:
I'm only replying to this drivel to point out that your statement that I have faith underscores your complete ignorance in this matter, regardless of whatever degrees you got from whatever flawed educational institution(s). It is astonishing how someone who has actually been educated in this field (in some fashion) can be so utterly, completely, myopically incorrect. Or, I wish it were.
T $
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Tim C wrote:
I'm only replying to this drivel to point out that your statement that I have faith underscores your complete ignorance in this matter, regardless of whatever degrees you got from whatever flawed educational institution(s). It is astonishing how someone who has actually been educated in this field (in some fashion) can be so utterly, completely, myopically incorrect. Or, I wish it were.
T $
I guess that proves everything. jeff
Now that you've thoroughly embarrassed yourself publicly and shown yourself incompetent to deal with the substance of what I said (which you probably do not understand), I think it's time this was taken offlist. No more tracts on failed Randian idealism, please. And for my part, I'll try not to point out more of your glaring inconsistencies and philosophical laugh-quotes. You should take that energy you're wasting here and get yourself an education, instead of pretending you have one. And work on those social skills. Most people will tire easily when you inform them you are infallibly correct (see below).
I'm only replying to this drivel to point out that your statement that I have faith underscores your complete ignorance in this matter, regardless of whatever degrees you got from whatever flawed educational institution(s). It is astonishing how someone who has actually been educated in this field (in some fashion) can be so utterly, completely, myopically incorrect. Or, I wish it were.
T $
more highlights from his worship: <snip> "Anyone that disagrees with my assessment is, in fact, and I do mean in absolute, pay attention to reality (there is only one folks), actual fact, incorrect. I will not bother to argue this, so please don't argue back - if you disagree, you're part of the problem..." <snip> ...yes, yes. Utterly reasonable. Thinking of running for President? jeff
The failure is yours. T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:38 AM To: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net; What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Now that you've thoroughly embarrassed yourself publicly and shown yourself incompetent to deal with the substance of what I said (which you probably do not understand), I think it's time this was taken offlist. No more tracts on failed Randian idealism, please. And for my part, I'll try not to point out more of your glaring inconsistencies and philosophical laugh-quotes. You should take that energy you're wasting here and get yourself an education, instead of pretending you have one. And work on those social skills. Most people will tire easily when you inform them you are infallibly correct (see below).
On 7/7/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Yeah, Clinton sure did a good job against the terrorists (read: Muslims).
Ok, yes.. the terrorists are not muslim but the muslims are NOT terrorists. It doesn't work both ways honey bunches of oats.
(If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.)
What the fuck?!!! Have you ever even read the Koran? This is a hatefull statement that I truly feel (read: hope) you do not believe.
NO religion is a religion of peace.)
I do understand where you are coming from, however I think you've really stepped out on a limb about as far as one could go without falling ass-over-end.
On 7/8/05, Matt Schieffer <slugdub@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/7/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Yeah, Clinton sure did a good job against the terrorists (read: Muslims).
Ok, yes.. the terrorists are not muslim but the muslims are NOT terrorists. It doesn't work both ways honey bunches of oats.
*Correction* Meant the terrorists are muslim fanatics and the muslims are not terrorists. Its not any one religion, or all religion.. its fanatacism you should despise. I too hope all my friends from London are ok. I have not accounted for them all as of yet.
I'm really shaken by this because I was just in London over the weekend with wife and kid, thru the stations on the tube all that... Planned on going in next week, luck of timing was all that seperated me from being a part of it all. I can't imagine if I were a daily commuter the impact this would have. Living an hour away outside of Oxford, my trips to London are mostly leisurely and sporadic. My sincere sympathies and best wishes go out to all those who were caught up in the middle and everyone, please keep safe. "it will be all right when my daddy comes home... Tonight."
Or maybe switch to one from that crackpipe! jeff Matt Schieffer wrote:
These people invented the shisha.. thats whats funny to me. You need to sit down and smoke a hooka brotha.
On 7/7/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
the terrorists (read: Muslims). (If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.)
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Ha ha. Now now. Be nice. Tim C is outspoken, but he's and ambient music fan. I think everyone knows what its like to succumb to the fear that these terrorists intend. Tim is just angry and fearful like us all. This whole situation is very simple. They think their terrorism is combatting our terrorism in their lands. Iraq is, afterall, the f'ing birthplace of civilization. Lets keep that in mind. Bin Laden has hated us ever since we set foot there (more Saudi Arabia, actually, his home). The fact we are there now, for some misadventure, is just aggravating things more. Good job Bush and Blair! Lets kick the hornets nest summore! On 7/8/05, theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net> wrote:
Or maybe switch to one from that crackpipe!
jeff
Matt Schieffer wrote:
These people invented the shisha.. thats whats funny to me. You need to sit down and smoke a hooka brotha.
On 7/7/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
the terrorists (read: Muslims). (If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.)
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Ha ha. Now now. Be nice. Tim C is outspoken, but he's and ambient music fan. I think everyone knows what its like to succumb to the fear that these terrorists intend. Tim is just angry and fearful like us all.
What kind of music one likes has little to do with what one thinks or how one conveys those thoughts publicly. Anger and fear I understand. Attacking other people's systems of thought while not having any clear understanding of one's own ramshackled and confused assumptions is quite another thing. In fact, it is a kind of fundamentalism and in that way is similar to any creed or epistemology which refuses self examination and proceeds to attack others with no basis other than "I said so". The fact that Randroids quote Aristotle freely without even knowing they employ what he called the 'hypothetical fallacy' is very ironic. The fact that they employ such belief in a system with so many gaping holes radical inconsistencies (try piecing together her cosmology sometime) is another irony as it demonstrates their use of 'faith' while they pretend they are based on pure reason, whatever that is supposed to be. Everyone else is just wrong. There is a lot of good in Aristotle, and once one factors in al of the indexicals, I am in agreement that "A cannot equal non-A" - western logic cannot proceed very lobg without some ground rules. However, if one steps up to the plate with a case to make, it is incumbent on the arguer to make said case and not just pronouce they have the absolute truth, QED, because "I said so". Even Rand would barf over that. It's nothing but an appeal to authority, based on faith - and in this case, the object of faith crumbles under Aristotelian scrutiny. Everyone, everywhere employs some level of faith in something, even if it isn't organized religion or God or Jacques Derrida - one believes the laws of gravity will still be in place based on something most of us know nothing about and even the experts can't do more than theorize about field theory. Really, I don't care what one believes - Rand, Marx, Jesus, etc, - but Tim's approach is what set my sights on him. It isn't nice to bash all religions and it isn't nice to make the kind of unsupported statements Tim is making. I wish I did have a wand whereby I could thwart all such actions of terrorism, but I will side with Mr. Gagen's brief statement earlier, quoted below. I would add only that it doesn't take a degree in religion to see where followers have historically distorted religious teachings to get an entirely other agenda deployed. To attribute those actions to the religious affiliations claimed is to be manipulated by both the ones who distort those doctrines for their own ends and by the ones oppositional who have a vested interest in making the opposite religiously righteous argument. It's about power. ------------ Don Gagen wrote: Dear Sir, Thank you for your interest in diplomatic relations... It doesn't matter who the president or prime minister is. It could be Bush or Blair, Man or Woman, Jesus or Allah, Santa or the Easter Bunny. There will always be factions who aren't satisfied, in times of war or in times of peace. Sometimes these factions run the government, and some operate outside of it. They have an agenda, and to achieve that agenda means people will die. Welcome to the inhumane world of humans. I sincerely hope all the Londoners on the list are doing well. ----------- 'nuff said. jeff
Please refrain from speaking for me. "Our terrorism in their lands." Sickening. Yes, and it was "terrorism" to take the fight to Hitler, too. The lack of connection of these similarities - appeasement - heads in sand - consequences - from then to now - in Europe of all places - is frankly unbelievable. The fact that ample evidence exists of Islam's plan for world domination - and yet every terrorist attack is always just blamed on someone having been provoked - is more frankly unbelievable - at least to anyone who does not understand philosophy and its effects. We barely won WWII and a big (hidden) part of that victory was preventing Hitler from getting the Bomb. Yet - observe the European governments bending over backwards to fail to prevent Iran from getting it - Iran that is the current biggest concern (not that anyplace over there - including the curiously-in-bed-with-us, curiously not - ALARMINGLY NOT, guys - Saudi Arabia - is not of concern). Just for clarification - it should be obvious that my thoughts are with those who are victims of any oppression by any government - or religion - anywhere. Defending oneself - or putting down dictatorships - is not "oppression" by the way. T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:46 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Ha ha. Now now. Be nice. Tim C is outspoken, but he's and ambient music fan. I think everyone knows what its like to succumb to the fear that these terrorists intend. Tim is just angry and fearful like us all.
This whole situation is very simple. They think their terrorism is combatting our terrorism in their lands. Iraq is, afterall, the f'ing birthplace of civilization. Lets keep that in mind. Bin Laden has hated us ever since we set foot there (more Saudi Arabia, actually, his home).
The fact we are there now, for some misadventure, is just aggravating things more. Good job Bush and Blair! Lets kick the hornets nest summore!
On 7/8/05, theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net> wrote:
Or maybe switch to one from that crackpipe!
jeff
Matt Schieffer wrote:
These people invented the shisha.. thats whats funny to me. You need to sit down and smoke a hooka brotha.
On 7/7/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
the terrorists (read: Muslims). (If you are on this list and are Muslim, don't try to tell me it's a religion of peace.)
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Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er. On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done discussing this topic? Just checking, because I'm sure done listening to your garbage. Please take it off the list if you need to continue this argument, thank you.
Please refrain from speaking for me.
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Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited. T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:09 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
this topic? Just checking, because I'm sure done listening to your garbage. Please take it off the list if you need to continue this argument, thank you.
Please refrain from speaking for me.
Ok Tim, C U Next Tuesday! On 7/11/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited.
T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:09 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
this topic? Just checking, because I'm sure done listening to your garbage. Please take it off the list if you need to continue this argument, thank you.
Please refrain from speaking for me.
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Please take this shit off list. Enough is enough. This is nowhere ORB related. RMStringer ========================================== Seek not every quality in one individual: *Confucius* -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:11 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London Ok Tim, C U Next Tuesday! On 7/11/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited.
T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:09 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
this topic? Just checking, because I'm sure done listening to your garbage. Please take it off the list if you need to continue this argument, thank you.
Please refrain from speaking for me.
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Hi all in a effort to change the subject i am asking for your opinions on bands i should take a look at D&B wise. Im loving the Orb D&B inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B................. Any Offers? Steve
Horizons by LTJ Bukem Absolutely kick ass tune that sounds as fresh today as the day it came out of the oven. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wright" <steve@donsolaris.com> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [Orb] O.T (but music related at least) Drum & Bass
Hi all in a effort to change the subject i am asking for your opinions on bands i should take a look at D&B wise. Im loving the Orb D&B inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
Any Offers?
Steve
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demon theme and cosmic interlude by LTJ are also classics that hold their own. they're on the 'producer' CD, i believe. -xenlab www.xnlb.com On 7/11/05, Chris Wallace <interax@hotmail.com> wrote:
Horizons by LTJ Bukem
Absolutely kick ass tune that sounds as fresh today as the day it came out of the oven.
Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wright" <steve@donsolaris.com> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [Orb] O.T (but music related at least) Drum & Bass
Hi all in a effort to change the subject i am asking for your opinions on bands i should take a look at D&B wise. Im loving the Orb D&B inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
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Check out T-Power's earlier stuff. I'd definately recommend the albums "The Self-Evident Truth of an Intuitive Mind", "Waveform" and the (almost) 40 minute single "Police State" which is simply fantastic. Well I think so anyway. --- egyptian zombie robot <egyptianzombierobot@gmail.com> wrote:
demon theme and cosmic interlude by LTJ are also classics that hold their own. they're on the 'producer' CD, i believe.
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On 7/11/05, Chris Wallace <interax@hotmail.com> wrote:
Horizons by LTJ Bukem
Absolutely kick ass tune that sounds as fresh today as the day it came out of the oven.
Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wright" <steve@donsolaris.com> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [Orb] O.T (but music related at least) Drum & Bass
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If you haven't check out LTJ Bukem and his record labels: Good Cookin' Good Lookin' http://www.glo.uk.com/ Both are excellent atmospheric DnB that you should like. Also check http://www.720-degrees.com/ for Blame (who has done stuff with LTJ) and his record label. Also, Animals on Wheels which have a couple of discs on Ninja Tune are also worth looking up: http://www.ninjatune.net/ninja/artist.php?id=65 -xenlab www.xnlb.com On 7/11/05, Stephen Wright <steve@donsolaris.com> wrote:
Hi all in a effort to change the subject i am asking for your opinions on bands i should take a look at D&B wise. Im loving the Orb D&B inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
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On 7/11/05, Stephen Wright <steve@donsolaris.com> wrote:
inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
Any Offers?
I'm digging on the Ochre for spacey shit. Here is an amazing recent llive set: http://www.ochremusic.com/mp3s/Ochre_Live_@_STFU_6-2005.mp3 In the Drill n' Bass category Drop the Lime and Hrdvson are the hot tickets.
How many albums do they have. I have never heard of them RMStringer ========================================== Seek not every quality in one individual: *Confucius* -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+rmstringer1971=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt Schieffer Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:03 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] O.T (but music related at least) Drum & Bass On 7/11/05, Stephen Wright <steve@donsolaris.com> wrote:
inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
Any Offers?
I'm digging on the Ochre for spacey shit. Here is an amazing recent llive set: http://www.ochremusic.com/mp3s/Ochre_Live_@_STFU_6-2005.mp3 In the Drill n' Bass category Drop the Lime and Hrdvson are the hot tickets. _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
On Jul 11, 2005, at 4:28 PM, RMStringer wrote:
How many albums do they have. I have never heard of them
Chris Leary is Ochre, here's a website: http://www.ochremusic.com/ Here are some of his releases > 'Sound System Banger Volume 01' 'Audiomicrodevice' 'A Midsummer Nice Dream' (i think tracks on 'SSBv1' & 'Audiomicrodevice', both eps, can be found on 'Midsummer...')
Amon Tobin's Briccolage and Permutation album's are some of the best experimental dnb albums I've ever heard. I also like Plug's (Luke Vibert) Drum and Bass for Papa, Squarepusher's first album Feed Me Weird Things is another leftfield dnb classic. Hope these help Jason
From: Stephen Wright <steve@donsolaris.com> Reply-To: What were the skies like when you were young?<orb@mailman.xmission.com> To: What were the skies like when you were young? <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Orb] O.T (but music related at least) Drum & Bass Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:27:21 +0100
Hi all in a effort to change the subject i am asking for your opinions on bands i should take a look at D&B wise. Im loving the Orb D&B inspired stuff, so Im looking for some spacey D&B.................
Any Offers?
Steve
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One of my favorite drum-n-bass groups is Spring Heel Jack (not to be confused with Spring Heeled Jack USA) The album "There Are Strings" uses a decent amount of string arrangements in their compositions, "68 Million Shades" was their Island Records debut and a strong follow up with added jazz influences. "Busy Curious Thirsty" has a lot of ambient parts incorporaed throughout, and has the super catchy track "Hale Bopp" which, long ago, MTV's amp actually played the video to. Their more recent works have turned a different direction, usually incorporating live musicians and turning out more jazz-tinged than DnB. Gavin --- Stephen Wright <steve@donsolaris.com> wrote:
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Your bigotry was also unsolicited. And you haven't stated anything rational or factual, nor dealt with the substance of any criticism laid at your feet, other than to rant that you are correct. Randroids always think they 'understand philosophy'. Pathetic. It might be a good idea to quit while you're behind. How you can type with your feet in your mouth is an anomaly. jeff Tim C wrote:
Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited.
T
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Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
Perhaps this article will be of interest. http://victorhanson.com/articles/thornton070905.html T PS - I have not been bigoted. I have stated facts. No one has asked for any backup of those facts, just proclaimed what an idiot I am. I am NOT a "Randroid" - I am a rational man. You have offered no evidence to indicate that you should be considered likewise. How typing with my feet in my mouth should be difficult, I'm not sure, but let's just say that reality will be the final arbiter in this discussion of who's idiotic and who's not - and don't forget that Islamism is a part of that reality. PPS - While I realize that this sort of political/philosophical discussion tends to annoy the list, the original posts on the London events (which, apparently, ARE ok on the Orb list, just not after someone makes unpopular remarks against the general hippie sensibilities (or lack thereof)) contained remarks that needed refutation. It is also my hope that perhaps one or two of you might actually be caused to question your beliefs/reexamine the facts (of which appallingly little has occurred, even after the events of 9/11).
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:01 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Your bigotry was also unsolicited. And you haven't stated anything rational or factual, nor dealt with the substance of any criticism laid at your feet, other than to rant that you are correct. Randroids always think they 'understand philosophy'. Pathetic. It might be a good idea to quit while you're behind. How you can type with your feet in your mouth is an anomaly.
jeff
Tim C wrote:
Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited.
T
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Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
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Thanks Tim! Until your emails I didn't realize that I needed to reexamine my beliefs. Praise be to allah for you giving me that opportunity! -xenlab P.S. - Please take the discussion off list. A couple of "Hope everyone's OK in London" emails should be considered fair game on a list with a high percentage of Brits and Europeans. However, this pissing match between you and theREALmxyzptlk is growing tired for the rest of us. I disagree with points both of you made, but also didn't feel like my intellectual ego and it's integrity was tied to having others espouse my beliefs, whether factual or not. On 7/11/05, Tim C <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Perhaps this article will be of interest. http://victorhanson.com/articles/thornton070905.html
T
PS - I have not been bigoted. I have stated facts. No one has asked for any backup of those facts, just proclaimed what an idiot I am. I am NOT a "Randroid" - I am a rational man. You have offered no evidence to indicate that you should be considered likewise. How typing with my feet in my mouth should be difficult, I'm not sure, but let's just say that reality will be the final arbiter in this discussion of who's idiotic and who's not - and don't forget that Islamism is a part of that reality.
PPS - While I realize that this sort of political/philosophical discussion tends to annoy the list, the original posts on the London events (which, apparently, ARE ok on the Orb list, just not after someone makes unpopular remarks against the general hippie sensibilities (or lack thereof)) contained remarks that needed refutation. It is also my hope that perhaps one or two of you might actually be caused to question your beliefs/reexamine the facts (of which appallingly little has occurred, even after the events of 9/11).
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:01 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] London
Your bigotry was also unsolicited. And you haven't stated anything rational or factual, nor dealt with the substance of any criticism laid at your feet, other than to rant that you are correct. Randroids always think they 'understand philosophy'. Pathetic. It might be a good idea to quit while you're behind. How you can type with your feet in your mouth is an anomaly.
jeff
Tim C wrote:
Bigotry and rational assessment of facts are two entirely different things. Your "clarification" was unsolicited.
T
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Yeah, a little bit of bigotry there and I'm done trying to clarify his ramblings. Tim C you are one outspoken ignant' mf'er.
On 7/10/05, JASON HICKS <ikki1@msn.com> wrote:
Didn't you say three posts ago that you were done
discussing
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Hope all our friends in and around London are safe! fvll Subject: [Orb] London I hope all you Londoners and your friends and family are well. It is awful. Sorry our President failed to take care of Bin Laden when he could.
Exactly - "...when he could" - add "with the full force at his disposal." T
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mailing Lists Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:33 AM To: orblist Subject: [Orb] London
I hope all you Londoners and your friends and family are well. It is awful. Sorry our President failed to take care of Bin Laden when he could.
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