That really is a great post... full of equations and stuff... physics is usefull, if not anything else. The problem is, those guys maybe never left the basement of their parents rambler or the safety of a river condo to got to a Pantera or Meschugga concert. These tend to cause a small loss of hearing range, particularly the high-end frequency. One could then venture, there is also a diminished ability to distinguish between 'better' or mathematically superior sound files. I mean just cuz its their (3.5 or 3.25 X better), doesnt necessarilly mean its usefull. I.E. you may get some 'tang' this valentines day for naming a star after your date, but nobody will ever see that star and say "oh, its 'gavin's whore he took to the Craig David show and showered in gifts of gold's' star. NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR CONCUBINE"S FUCKING STAR GAVIN... NOBODY AHHHHH HAH HA HA HA HA ... sorry got a lil off track. Good work though, seriously.

From: Gavin Miller <orbaddict@yahoo.com> Reply-To: What were the skies like when you were young?<orb@mailman.xmission.com> To: What were the skies like when you were young? <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Orb] His master's voice Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:31:02 -0800 (PST)

Just to throw more fuel on the fire...

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A CD is encoded 44,100 samples per second x 16 bits per sample x 2 channels = 1,411,200 bits per second, or more than 3.5x more information than a 192kbps MP3.

That is a fact. I'm a bit of a DAT head, which records in 3 modes: 32k (aka LP mode), 44.1k (CD format) and 48 K. All are 16 bit 2 channel. I've used all 3 and can tell a difference between 32 and 44.1, because of the 1/2 kBPS rule. "what's that" you might ask? It was explained to me typically devide the bps by 2 and you get the frequency cutoff. 32kBPS = 16kHZ, 44.1kBPS = 22kHZ. As for 48kHZ, I guess there's a difference but it's minimal. The biggest drawback is the need for resampling if you're planning on converting a 48k recording to CD format.

As I've done more research, I've noticed in some hi-fi digital forums the users consider 96kBPS 24 bit the way to go. If you do the math that's 4,608,000 which is 3 1/4 more than CD format. It was noted as the "true way to reproduce analogue sound with a digital medium" I guess you'd need a six-figure system in order to hear the difference though... I dare you to mention MP3 around those guys. Gavin

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