New subject: OT Request

6 Dec 2004

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 16:39:32 -0800
From: "Tim C" <timc_orb@charter.net>
Subject: RE: [Orb] re:  OT Request
To: "'What were the skies like when you were young?'"
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More amazing logic.  By throttling capitalism (and getting involved in
healthcare at all levels) governments have forced the costs of healthcare to
rise.
Could you be specific?  As best as I can tell the cost of healthcare has
been driven up more by greed than "throttling," especially here in the US
where the perverted concept of a "free market" (which is myth but I digress)
is allowed to be applied to public necessities.  Everyone needs healthcare.
As the system is now over half of Americans are priced out of it and can
only get healthcare by a) waiting until it's way too late and using
emergency rooms (thus driving up costs all around and often bankrupting the
patients) or b) working for a company that provides health insurance.  If
you've been paying attention you might have noticed that employer paid
health insurance is also vanishing.  But then again the neo-con way is, "If
you can't afford it, fuck you.  Go die."
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Without corporations, where the fuck do you think you'd be, anyway?
This is another vague and, frankly, stupid statement.  All corporations are
not equal.  Monopolies are inherently flawed.  Small corporations in an
unregulated market are swallowed by bigger ones, ad nauseum until a monopoly
is created.  But the main problem I have with your small little mind is that
it can't seem to grasp what my statement meant which is I don't want to work
for a corporation.  I'm a small business owner.  Fuck corporations.
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Who do you think creates jobs?
I thought it was small business owners... but that's just bullshit
lipservice from the Bush administration as NOTHING those fuckers do is to
help the small business owner.  Unless you consider 1000 employees to be
small.  Large corporations as they grow larger tend to reduce the overall
size of their workforce through layoffs as they acquire smaller
corporations, thus reducing employment in any given sector.
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Where the fuck do you think wealth comes from?
I guess it must be the all knowing and beneficient corporations.  All hail
Enron.  Dumbass.
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Imagine how inexpensive health care would be without all the regulations
(everywhere), unreasonable lawsuits (i.e, breakdown of justice system,
particularly in USA), the difficulty in approving new medicines (again,
mainly USA here - but of course the good ol' FDA approves things like
aspartame), etc.
*Sigh*  You've been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh, kid.  Do you know
the main source of lawsuits in the US?  Business.  That's right, large
corporations are responsible for 4/5's of lawsuits.  Why is it you neo-cons
only want to limit individual lawsuits?  Or were you aware of this?

Approving medicine:  According to a GAO study the FDA is receiving less than
half the funding it needs to properly do its job.  This is not a fault of
regulation (which we have far too little of in my opinion, especially in
profitteering and managerial compensation in medicine) it's a fault of
neo-cons attempting to destroy social programs by underfunding them.  But
Stealth bombers (a stupid piece of technology we have no use for whatsoever)
are more important than the public health.  We obviously should trust large
corporations to work in the public interest as they did at Love Canal, 3
Mile Island, or as they did along all major waterways before the EPA.

We don't have shit for regulations on our health industry which is the main
reason it is so expensive.  When an essential service is allowed to be
privatized you end up with the minimum amount of said service so if there is
a surge in demand the system will collapse.  As a nation we should have a
robust healthcare system that is prepared to handle a major epidemic.  As it
is most communities do not have enough hospital beds to deal with ordinary
busy periods like holidays.  As I said before, you also end up with the
prices the "market" will bear which means that at least half of people won't
be able to afford any kind of healthcare without risking bankruptcy.
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Man, is this you?  http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php -
go down to "Dancing Moonbats".  Fuuuuck.
I've got no idea what you're talking about.  Looks like some kind of news
blog to me.  I can't find anything about moonbats or dancing.
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Just out of curiosity, what ISP are you accessing the Internet (which, of
course, magically coalesced from a
fart emitted by Al Gore) with?
What does this have to do with this, exactly?  I have a choice of two ISPs
that offer DSL connections and their billing rates are identical.  If I
wanted cable internet I could use... ONE source, but I don't watch
television.

I would like to point out that Gore's statement about inventing the internet
has been taken out of context.  If you pull your head out of your ass and do
some research you would find out that Al Gore was the main sponsor and
driving force behind the budgetting that created the internet.  That's
right, it was created by the government using public funds.  Why are you
using it then?  Obviously government can do nothing right in your opinion so
aren't you a bit of a hyporcrit for using it?  And you should only use
privately owned and created highways.  Oh, and be sure to never use
electricity in a rural setting.

Why oh why bother, though?  You're going to ignore anything logical and
continue to chant your dogmatic views to yourself, reinforcing them with Fox
News and Rush Limbaugh.  Despite any evidence contrary to your dogma you'll
keep believing the neo-con mythology until you find yourself standing on the
ledge after the next Black Friday.  We're setting ourselves up for the same
massive collapse that occurred 80 years ago by telling ourselves we can do
what they did without fucking it up and since it's probably people like you
that will be making the decisions the collapse will happen and you'll be
really surprised by it.

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