Philly: Welcome. To catch up, you might want to pilfer through the archives. Postings, from niburu are from thrash. So just do a find for niburu once your in October or November. Nobody can figure out if anybody asked him to leave. There were a lot of joking insults being thrown around (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that one) so, who knows. There were tons of posts while Thrash was stirring things up. It was great. October and November archives: http://mailman.xmission.com/pipermail/orb/2002-November/thread.html http://mailman.xmission.com/pipermail/orb/2002-October/thread.html Thrash has a kdx server with some good stuff under his me music itnit folder along with various other goodies. Look here for instructions: http://mailman.xmission.com/pipermail/orb/2002-November/003050.html The only thing wrong with this post is that there doesn't have to be a name or password. Peace and good luck.