"You really didn't think the Orbus Terrarum tour with live drums and bass was phenomenal? Wow, I feel sorry for you." I did, and it still didn't ring my bell, bit of a noise as i recall. But there's definitely no need to feel sorry for me, I saw some fantastic gigs prior to that. Nothing quite bettered the Glastonbury '92 gig, and those who thought Orbital were the classic Glastonbury band must have been elsewhere in '92.
Interesting. I thought the Terrarvm show was musically (from a technical point of view) the best I've seen them do (it was also the first time I'd seen them out of three), while Cydonia show had the best overall flow. Orblivion was somewhere in middle. It (OT) WAS noisy - almost like an industrial show or something, or being in a war. I just remember how impressed I was at how HARD it was, which may indeed not be for everybody. I saw LX at a DJ gig awhile after, and commented how good the show was - I could tell from his reaction that that was rather the opposite of what he was used to hearing, apparently. Now I'm envious that you got to see the legendary early-90s gigs - I hadn't guite gotten into electronic music in '92! At least I caught the tail end of raving (in the US) before it really started getting shut down. Which brings me to question for listers in general - where are you in the world and are raves still going on? Can you get what you want to take with you in? Good music/vibe or brainless music for e-kids that don't care? Like I say, in many parts of US (Phoenix being most recent big city I was in, where things really went down the toilet), the rave scene has just died. T
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"You really didn't think the Orbus Terrarum tour with live drums and bass was phenomenal? Wow, I feel sorry for you."
I did, and it still didn't ring my bell, bit of a noise as i recall. But there's definitely no need to feel sorry for me, I saw some fantastic gigs prior to that. Nothing quite bettered the Glastonbury '92 gig, and those who thought Orbital were the classic Glastonbury band must have been elsewhere in '92.
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I dont suppose you know of any bootlegs from that era do you??? Steve timc_orb@charter.net wrote:
Interesting. I thought the Terrarvm show was musically (from a technical point of view) the best I've seen them do (it was also the first time I'd seen them out of three), while Cydonia show had the best overall flow. Orblivion was somewhere in middle. It (OT) WAS noisy - almost like an industrial show or something, or being in a war. I just remember how impressed I was at how HARD it was, which may indeed not be for everybody. I saw LX at a DJ gig awhile after, and commented how good the show was - I could tell from his reaction that that was rather the opposite of what he was used to hearing, apparently.
Now I'm envious that you got to see the legendary early-90s gigs - I hadn't guite gotten into electronic music in '92! At least I caught the tail end of raving (in the US) before it really started getting shut down. Which brings me to question for listers in general - where are you in the world and are raves still going on? Can you get what you want to take with you in? Good music/vibe or brainless music for e-kids that don't care? Like I say, in many parts of US (Phoenix being most recent big city I was in, where things really went down the toilet), the rave scene has just died.
T
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"You really didn't think the Orbus Terrarum tour with live drums and bass was phenomenal? Wow, I feel sorry for you."
I did, and it still didn't ring my bell, bit of a noise as i recall. But there's definitely no need to feel sorry for me, I saw some fantastic gigs prior to that. Nothing quite bettered the Glastonbury '92 gig, and those who thought Orbital were the classic Glastonbury band must have been elsewhere in '92.
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Madison WI here. I think raves are still going on in barns in the north part of the state... I remember hitting a few parties in random barns along Interstate 90 on my way to or from Minneapolis... Somewhere near Eau Claire. If you're asking about drugs ("get what you want to take with you") then yes. I can get anything I want LOL... Just have to ask the right person. Different people can get me different things. I have to admit, Tim, I was an e-kid at one point. And I did care :) I heard music in a way that I'd never heard it before, and now I appreciate Orb even more. I convinced a few very close friends that the Orb was probably the best electronic music act since <insert band name here>. And they now are devoted fans... Although we're all off the drugs at this point. There are still raves but they are VERY hard to come by. -B On 3/15/05 11:10 AM, "Tim C" <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Now I'm envious that you got to see the legendary early-90s gigs - I hadn't guite gotten into electronic music in '92! At least I caught the tail end of raving (in the US) before it really started getting shut down. Which brings me to question for listers in general - where are you in the world and are raves still going on? Can you get what you want to take with you in? Good music/vibe or brainless music for e-kids that don't care? Like I say, in many parts of US (Phoenix being most recent big city I was in, where things really went down the toilet), the rave scene has just died.
T
If you're asking about drugs ("get what you want to take with you") then yes. I can get anything I want LOL... Just have to ask the right person. Different people can get me different things.
My question was not so much availability, but if you are searched at door etc (some places make this condition to have raves in first place, such as Seattle under their rave law when I was there, late 90s).
I have to admit, Tim, I was an e-kid at one point. And I did care :) I heard music in a way that I'd never heard it before, and now I appreciate Orb even more. I convinced a few very close friends that the Orb was probably the best electronic music act since <insert band name here>. And they now are devoted fans... Although we're all off the drugs at this point.
Oh sure, definitely, I didn't mean to slam anyone who's done e, a, c, or whatever, or sound like I was doing so - "My attorney has never been able to accept the notion - often espoused by reformed drug abusers and especially popular among those on probation - that you can get a lot higher without drugs than with them. And neither have I, for that matter" - HST. I'm just slamming the hordes of kids that did materialize later, that didn't give a shit about the music, just went to raves to be "different" and get "fucked up" instead of BENT. This more than anything killed raves around many parts of US I think - cuz you can always take them deeper into the woods/barns/underground to escape The Man. Re - Orb - best since... - I think the Orb is in a very rarified league compositionally - up there with Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Zappa. Easily the best electronica and really some of the best music of this century, or any. Other people/bands that I like, such as various psy trance, Aphex Twin, Kraftwerk, Rush, Yes, etc - are really quite pedestrian in comparison, even if awesome in their own right. That's not to say they're terribly inferior - just that the Orb is on their own level. T
There are still raves but they are VERY hard to come by.
-B
On 3/15/05 11:10 AM, "Tim C" <timc_orb@charter.net> wrote:
Now I'm envious that you got to see the legendary early-90s gigs - I hadn't guite gotten into electronic music in '92! At least I caught the tail end of raving (in the US) before it really started getting shut down. Which brings me to question for listers in general - where are you in the world and are raves still going on? Can you get what you want to take with you in? Good music/vibe or brainless music for e-kids that don't care? Like I say, in many parts of US (Phoenix being most recent big city I was in, where things really went down the toilet), the rave scene has just died.
T
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My question was not so much availability, but if you are searched at door etc (some places make this condition to have raves in first place, such as Seattle under their rave law when I was there, late 90s).
Eh, usually I consume what I need before I go in; If I need more, I stick a little baggie in my sock. Works all the time. Then I just pretend I have to tie my shoe, and out comes the pills, powders, or potions of desired quantity.
Oh sure, definitely, I didn't mean to slam anyone who's done e, a, c, or whatever, or sound like I was doing so - "My attorney has never been able to accept the notion - often espoused by reformed drug abusers and especially popular among those on probation - that you can get a lot higher without drugs than with them. And neither have I, for that matter" - HST. I'm just slamming the hordes of kids that did materialize later, that didn't give a shit about the music, just went to raves to be "different" and get "fucked up" instead of BENT. This more than anything killed raves around many parts of US I think - cuz you can always take them deeper into the woods/barns/underground to escape The Man.
HST?? Yuck, Tim :) Yuck!!!! You're right though. Raves were banned outright in Madison when a 17yo high school boy was found dead in a parking garage after overdosing on e. I guess he overheated, and dropped dead in the garage. They found him two days after the rave. I believe this was 2001... I know that before 2001, there were many more raves to go to. I guess you have the right to take whatever you want -- but dammit, if you can't hold your toxins, don't go out in public on them...! :)
Re - Orb - best since... - I think the Orb is in a very rarified league compositionally - up there with Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Zappa. Easily the best electronica and really some of the best music of this century, or any. Other people/bands that I like, such as various psy trance, Aphex Twin, Kraftwerk, Rush, Yes, etc - are really quite pedestrian in comparison, even if awesome in their own right. That's not to say they're terribly inferior - just that the Orb is on their own level.
I agree... The Orb definitely has taken me places only a few greats can. That's why I'm getting the tattoo :) *grin* Cheers... -B
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