From: P J Kane so --- this isn't looped in anyway, that was really the way people were chanting at the fireworks display????

Well it is made of loops but the "kill Osama, kill kill Osama" is for real. There are four different times that it appears on the tape (well, mini-disc, actually but old habits of speech die hard) and I've lifted them intact without altering anything more than eq. This is a common cheerleader chant ("Beat the Lakers, beat beat Lakers! Go Team!") here in the US. I think it is the same girls that yell "Go America!" in the intro. I was stationary when recording the fireworks show so these girls were somewhere behind me the whole time (I was a few feet from the Ohio river).

and that "phantom vocals" thing -- was that somebody in the crowd singing near the recorder??? it's quite strange....

If you pull the loops of the girls chanting "Kill Osama" that phantom vocal part is not there. It really freaked me out the first time I heard it. It sounds to me like "Kill Osama... Ooooooh" at half the tempo of the chant.

and they kept repeating, making a funky little rhtythm.

There have been so many times I want to kill myself for not having my recorder with me. I'm convinced that modern music has a great deal to do with the sounds around us (beeping cash registers, cell phones, jet engines, clicking machines...). I've been trying to record the ceiling fan in my bathroom which produces a killer shuffle beat but it's so quiet I can't filter out the wind noise from the fan. I've heard the theory that Beethoven's style comes from the giant steam engines of the industrial revolution and that bluegrass is a product of the internal combustion engine. One of these days I'm going to really work out that progression from farther back to the present.

no, thanks for sharing actually.

I'm just glad you enjoyed it. : ) That's as opposed to this guy:

From: Beats From Beyond Well, I'm going to go ahead and be brutally honest here... I really didn't like the track. Not enough going on for me - needs to do more/have more structure. Too heavy on percussion. And the chant/samples are overused and get to be too much pretty quickly.

Sorry! You asked my opinion! :)

_jason_

I understand exactly what you mean. That would, however, defeat the premise of the project which was to use as little as possible that didn't come from the show. There are 33 total tracks and only six are not ambient sound recordings (and one is just a modulation of another so it's really only five). I can guarantee you that parts of this piece will appear in future IFPR songs and shows so stay tuned! (If you'd like I'll put you on the IFPR mailing list. I've only sent four mailings this year so don't worry about getting a bunch of updates and crap. I just send a link to the "current" page in my site.) Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com