Oh bullshit cassette players are as good as mp3. At the volume level I've got the hiss alone would damage my hearing and drown out the music. Unless I use Dolby in which case it sounds like you're trying to suffocate the music under a pillow. There's also the cost of the media. A tape osts --let's go for cheap like I'd bought a pack of ten good quality tapes as if one could find that-- about $2 for 90 minutes. A cd-r, on the other hand, costs about $.30 and at 192kbps encoding up to 20khz I can get over 8 hours or 480 minutes on the disc with no noise, digital aritfacts (at least that I can hear in my car), and plenty of depth (again, I'm driving in a small car). I've had my mp3 in-dash for about nine months now and it has NEVER skipped. Even my very high end Nak that I had back in the day would get off track going over a really good bump. I can burn one cd-r, put it in my car for a week and unless I go on a road trip I won't listen to all of it. Plus the faceplate comes off so the theft thing isn't much of an issue. _________________________________ www.psychicreform.com Change your mind. _________________________________ Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. --Zippy the Pinhead _________________________________