I just noticed this from Trend Micro for all you P2P junkies out there: 2. Sludge in your Computer - VBS_SLUDGE.A (Low Risk) VBS_SLUDGE.A is a Visual Basic script worm that spreads using the peer-to-peer file sharing application Kazaa Lite. Upon execution, this worm drops a copy of itself in the Windows temporary folder using the file name "_uninst12.vbs." It then adds a registry entry so that its dropped copy is executed at every Windows startup. This virus creates copies of itself using one of 12 specific file names. These copies are dropped in %Program Files%\kazaa lite\my shared folder, a common shared folder of Kazaa Lite. This worm is intended to also propagate through Kazaa, Bearshare, Edonkey2000 and Morpheus, but fails to do so due to flaws in its script code. Although the script checks for the existence of the shared folders of these peer-to-peer, file-sharing applications, it incorrectly copies the dropped files to Kazaa Lite's shared folder. The folders checked are: %Program Files%\bearshare\shared %Program Files%\edonkey2000\incoming %Program Files%\kazaa\my shared folder %Program Files%\morpheus\my shared folder When the infected user's system date is March 3, this worm displays a message box with the following text: Address violation at 030303x 03/03/03 exception error. Please reboot. If you would like to scan your computer for VBS_SLUDGE.A or thousands of other worms, viruses, Trojans and malicious code, visit HouseCall, Trend Micro's free, online virus scanner at: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ VBS_SLUDGE.A is detected and cleaned by Trend Micro pattern file #454 and above. www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.
I've always thought those Peer 2 Peer progs are inherently flawed anyway due to the other person's download speed being capped by the ISP i.e. you might have 1mb down but it's only 256 up etc. Newsgroups are always far, far superior in terms of downloads but you're always erm restricted to what is posted to them.....plus your ISP's retention rate....and when your ISP does things like stop carrying DVD newsgroups or repost groups like NTL did recently...Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. But then that's what you have subscription News services for I guess. *goes back to bed*.
What news groups would you recommend? -----Original Message----- From: orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of skinner_matt@hotmail.com Sent: 08 February 2003 01:26 To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] P2P warning I've always thought those Peer 2 Peer progs are inherently flawed anyway due to the other person's download speed being capped by the ISP i.e. you might have 1mb down but it's only 256 up etc. Newsgroups are always far, far superior in terms of downloads but you're always erm restricted to what is posted to them.....plus your ISP's retention rate....and when your ISP does things like stop carrying DVD newsgroups or repost groups like NTL did recently...Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. But then that's what you have subscription News services for I guess. *goes back to bed*. _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
What news groups would you recommend?
Depends on a few tings really - main one I guess is what do you want and just as important is, does your ISP carry them......forgive me if I'm preaching to the converted but Newsgroups aren't like FTP or the likes of Napster or Audiogalaxy etc....I can only describe it as a thing like email that gets propagated in the background..... It's in very basic terms a load of text or binary that people post to a News server....and that in turn gets posted back to a load of other News servers....the same ones that people post to...p'haps I ain't explaining it very well...what I mean is that it doesn't stay there indefinitely...well, the binary ones don't anyway...by binary I mean things like pictures/movies [porn for example], mp3s, software [anything], Warez, games [PC, Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2 etc etc], and movies [could be anything from a 1mb mpeg or full 3 or 4gig DVD rip]. You could in theory start your own Newsgroup and post to it...and in the fullness of time all the News servers in the world would start carrying it so that anyone could read it.....but I guess it depends on what you're looking for [see above].... Examples:- Playstation 2 Games - alt.binaries.cd.image.playstation2 & a.b.c.i.playstation2.repost or you could look at a.b.c.i.playstation2.dvdiso Xbox stuff is similar, just replace playstation2 with xbox. Porn - alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica and endless permutations depending on your particular bent I guess. Music/mp3s - alt.binaries.sounds.mp3s.2000s and countless others. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Newsgroups on just about any subject you can think of and a few more besides.....honestly, some really weird shit. Not all Newsgroups are binaries though, there are loads of text only ones, basically "discussion" groups.....again, on anything.....want to talk about obscure amiga programming stuff? geeky computer shit [what isn't?], old arcade games from yesteryear, medieval fuckin history...it's all there for the world to post inane shit about. You get the picture I think. The only drawback to it is that a. the binary posts aren't held indefinitely like someone's FTP site for example...get em while you can...some News services have a month's retention, some [not mentioning NTL] are only a matter of hours....it's constantly being pushed off the end by more 0s and 1s vying for it's 10 minutes of fame and b. the other thing is that most of the text only Newsgroups are actually archived [bit like this list] by some method meaning that um that rambling post you made in 1995 about the state of your kitchen is actually still there for people to read if they want....you can search the non binary newsgroups on things like google for example. I didn't know about em until about 18 months ago when I got broadband...but Usenet as been there for yonks as some people constantly remind you. 99.99% of the binary Newsgroup content is highly illegal/questionable mind, I'm at a loss to work out exactly how it's STILL going in these days of the Internet police etc. I mean, you can download a mint DVD ISO of Gangs of New York before it's even released at the cinema or download the latest Xbox or PS2 DVD game from Japan before it's even released in Japan...it opens a whole can of worms on all sorts of levels but it's there. It's kinda like the modern equivalent of that kid in your class that used to bring in fuzzy copies of Terminator and Commando with Arabic subtitles or quite watchable copies of shit like Mobile home girls and Swedish erotica....dodgy shit for a modern generation. It's all monitored too, your ISP is legally bound to keep records of all it's IP traffic, so every inane post to a Newsgroup or download from a binary Newsgroup is logged and filed away for future reference for about 7 years or something. I know someone who is the IT director of the Internet hosting side of a very large ISP and he says it's all there in black and white...very scary. Common sense really, when you think about what's going on in the background. Course, if you don't download owt, you've got nowt to worry about. It's not all bad though, I mean if you can't find the manual for your VCR or can't remember how to tie a Windsor knot in your tie or want to know what the bird out of Demsey & Makepiece eats for breakfast, some geek will know the answer and probably tell you. Weird shit.
Err sorry I know about newsgroups Hehe I was using them about 11 years ago Although im sure this is an excellent intro to newsgroups To anyone who hasn't dabbled.. Just wanted to know which ones you liked.. The playstation 2 ones work ok? Can you burn em off a cd without any hassle Or is it this dongle bollocks? Thanks mate kris -----Original Message----- From: orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of skinner_matt@hotmail.com Sent: 08 February 2003 03:11 To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] P2P warning
What news groups would you recommend?
Depends on a few tings really - main one I guess is what do you want and just as important is, does your ISP carry them......forgive me if I'm preaching to the converted but Newsgroups aren't like FTP or the likes of Napster or Audiogalaxy etc....I can only describe it as a thing like email that gets propagated in the background..... It's in very basic terms a load of text or binary that people post to a News server....and that in turn gets posted back to a load of other News servers....the same ones that people post to...p'haps I ain't explaining it very well...what I mean is that it doesn't stay there indefinitely...well, the binary ones don't anyway...by binary I mean things like pictures/movies [porn for example], mp3s, software [anything], Warez, games [PC, Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2 etc etc], and movies [could be anything from a 1mb mpeg or full 3 or 4gig DVD rip]. You could in theory start your own Newsgroup and post to it...and in the fullness of time all the News servers in the world would start carrying it so that anyone could read it.....but I guess it depends on what you're looking for [see above].... Examples:- Playstation 2 Games - alt.binaries.cd.image.playstation2 & a.b.c.i.playstation2.repost or you could look at a.b.c.i.playstation2.dvdiso Xbox stuff is similar, just replace playstation2 with xbox. Porn - alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica and endless permutations depending on your particular bent I guess. Music/mp3s - alt.binaries.sounds.mp3s.2000s and countless others. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Newsgroups on just about any subject you can think of and a few more besides.....honestly, some really weird shit. Not all Newsgroups are binaries though, there are loads of text only ones, basically "discussion" groups.....again, on anything.....want to talk about obscure amiga programming stuff? geeky computer shit [what isn't?], old arcade games from yesteryear, medieval fuckin history...it's all there for the world to post inane shit about. You get the picture I think. The only drawback to it is that a. the binary posts aren't held indefinitely like someone's FTP site for example...get em while you can...some News services have a month's retention, some [not mentioning NTL] are only a matter of hours....it's constantly being pushed off the end by more 0s and 1s vying for it's 10 minutes of fame and b. the other thing is that most of the text only Newsgroups are actually archived [bit like this list] by some method meaning that um that rambling post you made in 1995 about the state of your kitchen is actually still there for people to read if they want....you can search the non binary newsgroups on things like google for example. I didn't know about em until about 18 months ago when I got broadband...but Usenet as been there for yonks as some people constantly remind you. 99.99% of the binary Newsgroup content is highly illegal/questionable mind, I'm at a loss to work out exactly how it's STILL going in these days of the Internet police etc. I mean, you can download a mint DVD ISO of Gangs of New York before it's even released at the cinema or download the latest Xbox or PS2 DVD game from Japan before it's even released in Japan...it opens a whole can of worms on all sorts of levels but it's there. It's kinda like the modern equivalent of that kid in your class that used to bring in fuzzy copies of Terminator and Commando with Arabic subtitles or quite watchable copies of shit like Mobile home girls and Swedish erotica....dodgy shit for a modern generation. It's all monitored too, your ISP is legally bound to keep records of all it's IP traffic, so every inane post to a Newsgroup or download from a binary Newsgroup is logged and filed away for future reference for about 7 years or something. I know someone who is the IT director of the Internet hosting side of a very large ISP and he says it's all there in black and white...very scary. Common sense really, when you think about what's going on in the background. Course, if you don't download owt, you've got nowt to worry about. It's not all bad though, I mean if you can't find the manual for your VCR or can't remember how to tie a Windsor knot in your tie or want to know what the bird out of Demsey & Makepiece eats for breakfast, some geek will know the answer and probably tell you. Weird shit. _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
Heh, right...sorry ;o) I did say sorry if preaching to the converted... I only look at the PS2 ones or erm Porn. Did have a gander at some of the DivX ones and DVD movie i.e. normal film ones but it's a pain in the ass to be honest. I only bother with mp3s for live stuff or DJ mixes or stuff I already own on Vinyl....so don't look at any mp3 NGs. Console ones i.e. DC, Xbox or PS2 you need to get the console mod chipped..strictly speakin, the DC just played direct boot copies eventually without any chipping. You will need a TV that plays NTSC or vice versa if you ain't PAL. Increasingly with console games now they come on DVDs so they're not as easy to erm "backup" hence DVD ISO NGs etc...which means you haves to get a DVD burner or tit around getting a 4 or 5 CD version of a DVD game that has no movies or speech on it.....but I still buy games...just curious as to what some of the stuff is like [it's shit mostly]. Of all the stuff I tried out and I'm talkin like 300 or so there's only one or two that I really liked...so I bought em. I mean, why feed that fat greasy cross-eyed child molesting fat knacker at the carboot or Camden market when you've got Usenet? The whole console mod chipping thing is fuckin mad, I don't see a problem with it personally, I see it as me saving meself about a grand in games I'd never have played more than once. Basically if you're gonna do it, get one that does everything like unlock the DVD region control, direct boot all games/regions/formats etc. If you're talking PS2 get a Messiah or Messiah 2.....Xbox, get an executor 2 [I think] cos you can turn em off, which means you can play on Xbox live rather than having to use GameSpy or Xboxconnect via your PC or whatever. Don't bother with those lame non solder external chip type things....they're a waste of space and money. But saying that I've not touched me Gamecube or PS2 since I got an Xbox...hmmmmmm. I think I've done me bit for the games industry over the past 20 years so with buying loads of games I never touched and they just sat there gathering dust...for what? Try before you buy in my book.
Games industry I dunno It stopped being any good when it went corporate Its harder for people in their bedroom to make a game now A few years ago it waS still possible to write a game with a few friends And take on the big boys ... now it seems a lot harder Teams of 50 people etc.etc big corporate pooh And too fucking expensive - playstation 2 game prices are a joke Im happy to copy them - I bought enough .... Anyway even if I had bought none I would still be happy! -----Original Message----- From: orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of skinner_matt@hotmail.com Sent: 08 February 2003 04:32 To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] P2P warning [OT] Heh, right...sorry ;o) I did say sorry if preaching to the converted... I only look at the PS2 ones or erm Porn. Did have a gander at some of the DivX ones and DVD movie i.e. normal film ones but it's a pain in the ass to be honest. I only bother with mp3s for live stuff or DJ mixes or stuff I already own on Vinyl....so don't look at any mp3 NGs. Console ones i.e. DC, Xbox or PS2 you need to get the console mod chipped..strictly speakin, the DC just played direct boot copies eventually without any chipping. You will need a TV that plays NTSC or vice versa if you ain't PAL. Increasingly with console games now they come on DVDs so they're not as easy to erm "backup" hence DVD ISO NGs etc...which means you haves to get a DVD burner or tit around getting a 4 or 5 CD version of a DVD game that has no movies or speech on it.....but I still buy games...just curious as to what some of the stuff is like [it's shit mostly]. Of all the stuff I tried out and I'm talkin like 300 or so there's only one or two that I really liked...so I bought em. I mean, why feed that fat greasy cross-eyed child molesting fat knacker at the carboot or Camden market when you've got Usenet? The whole console mod chipping thing is fuckin mad, I don't see a problem with it personally, I see it as me saving meself about a grand in games I'd never have played more than once. Basically if you're gonna do it, get one that does everything like unlock the DVD region control, direct boot all games/regions/formats etc. If you're talking PS2 get a Messiah or Messiah 2.....Xbox, get an executor 2 [I think] cos you can turn em off, which means you can play on Xbox live rather than having to use GameSpy or Xboxconnect via your PC or whatever. Don't bother with those lame non solder external chip type things....they're a waste of space and money. But saying that I've not touched me Gamecube or PS2 since I got an Xbox...hmmmmmm. I think I've done me bit for the games industry over the past 20 years so with buying loads of games I never touched and they just sat there gathering dust...for what? Try before you buy in my book. _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
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