Or more a product of it. Primal Scream and the orb shared the same manager O really ? its so enlightening to read how knowledgeable all of you are on ..... stuff actually they shared the same agent.. who was a sad little freak like much of the druggy little freaks who suck off the artists wallet (at the risk of sounding bitter) but then again who couldn't sound bitter after being in the music business... that's if bitter is mentioning that you got treated badly what are you supposed to do never mention that you got ripped off to anybody so you don't sound negative? I think not...