blasted RPC shutdown worm shite!!!!!!!I got your friggin' 60 seconds right here :p what the hell is a love san anyway? I guess I was fooling myself thinking why would anyone attack my computer(exept the recording industry....maybe?). oh well at least I had adventures beyond, uforb, pomme fritz, and orblivion to calm me while I fixed it. I shoulda bought a mac when I had the chance. Corbett p.s. After watching the video for from a distance I almost found myself enjoying it(the video sure made me smile anyway) _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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I shoulda bought a mac when I had the chance.
No, you should have gone and applied the update offered more than three weeks ago. Lax updating is no reason to bash a product. The update was right on windowsupdate.com, and there has been plenty of press about the exploit and the possibility of a worm. Typing reboot.exe -a at a command prompt will halt the shutdown.
On 8/13/03 4:59 AM, "Mark Schieldrop" <mark@schieldrop.net> wrote:
I shoulda bought a mac when I had the chance.
No, you should have gone and applied the update offered more than three weeks ago. Lax updating is no reason to bash a product. The update was right on windowsupdate.com, and there has been plenty of press about the exploit and the possibility of a worm.
Typing reboot.exe -a at a command prompt will halt the shutdown.
Yeah, I guess he could have done that. But the cool thing is that you don't have to worry about "keeping up on security hole updates" on the Mac. NO viruses, ever. It just works. There's a new security update every freakin' week for Windows (I know, I have a PC @ work right here). And the updates don't always catch the problem before it becomes a problem. What if you are away from an internet connection for a few months? I don't want to get on a Mac/PC bashing debate, but I was just talking about this whole worm/virus thing w/my girlfriend on the way to work today, and it just fucking sucks that some 14 year old hacker can take down your entire PC without you even knowing it. All your precious data = gone. Nothing more horrifying. Stepping off the platform war soapbox, _jason_ _________ ________ _______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _
Don't kid yourself. All computer systems are vulnerable to viruses, worms, hacks, etc. Windows is more susceptible, but it's not just because its insecure. It's also a bigger target, with more people trying to hack it. It's real simple: Run a good firewall and anti-virus software, and keep it up to date, or don't connect your computer to the Internet, regardless of what your OS is. No virus on the mac? No security holes? http://www.securemac.com/index.php One of the first computer worms.... On Unix. http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/6805/articles/morris-worm.html *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- Subject: [Orb] Worms / PC / Mac Yeah, I guess he could have done that. But the cool thing is that you don't have to worry about "keeping up on security hole updates" on the Mac. NO viruses, ever. It just works. There's a new security update every freakin' week for Windows (I know, I have a PC @ work right here).
Macs have viruses too. Don't be naïve. The reason PCs have more widespread exploits is because they are more commonly used, and runs most corporate networks these days. Macs don't 'just work'. They fail and have problems too. Because it's a closed system you have less hardware and software that might not interact smoothly. This is both a positive and a negative. Windows XP itself has automatic updating these days so there really is no more additional effort involved. I agree that the Mac is a nice machine, but honestly, it's not an alternative to a PC when you require the applications and interoperability of a PC network in a corporate environment, and the applications simply do not exist for the Mac. Just like I wouldn't suggest giving your receptionist a copy of FreeBSD to get her work done. Yes, worms and exploits are a pain in the ass, and the 14 year old kids don't deserve the attention. Just remember the basic facts: Always keep your critical data backed up. You should never suffer for more than the time it takes to install your software and copy files back in a worst case scenario. Being caught off guard and losing data is always preventable. Secondly, it takes a few seconds each week to update/check for critical updates and to make sure your virus definitions are up to date. A few seconds. Considering the investment in time you put in your car to make oil changes, tire rotations, and checking belts and hoses. If you never did this and your car broke down, I doubt's you'd blame the car manufacturer. Lastly, that vast majority of worms, viruses and such are activated manually by someone clicking on a link or executing code. In the case of LovSan, the rpc exploit does a bit of self installing, so it's different, but in general, it's the user who is wreaking havoc on themselves more so than it's the maliciousness of 'hackers' preying on the unsuspecting. There's no excuse for someone to be unsuspecting now. I wouldn't even call whoever is responsible for this a hacker. They simply lifted publicly available code, added a few lines, packaged it up, and let it go. It was a matter of time, since the exploit has been discussed for three weeks and there have been countless warnings. Nobody in their right mind should have port 135 open anyway, it's for internal LAN network tasks, and any secure network with a qualified administrator would have had that locked down in the first place. XP's built in firewall does a good job of limiting these types of possible exploits. Again, a safeguard is part of the package. You don't even have to look further than the OS. Want to send your bank account numbers to an Argentinean? I guess not. Likewise, don't think every joke and link passed along is safe. Anyway, hope all is well. Been hammered with deadline today at work and so I took a short break with this message. Regards, ---- Mark Schieldrop Reporter, The Narragansett Times mark@schieldrop.net
On 8/13/03 2:05 PM, "Mark Schieldrop" <mark@schieldrop.net> wrote:
Macs have viruses too. Don't be naïve.
Well, I'm sure they do... But I work @ Apple, and have used Macs for nearly a decade, and never, EVER have I EVER heard of someone having to reformat their Mac (and lose all data) due to some virus. That was basically my point. Sorry to start a platform war...
The reason PCs have more widespread exploits is because they are more commonly used, and runs most corporate networks these days.
Macs don't 'just work'. They fail and have problems too. Because it's a closed system you have less hardware and software that might not interact smoothly. This is both a positive and a negative.
Windows XP itself has automatic updating these days so there really is no more additional effort involved. I agree that the Mac is a nice machine, but honestly, it's not an alternative to a PC when you require the applications and interoperability of a PC network in a corporate environment, and the applications simply do not exist for the Mac. Just like I wouldn't suggest giving your receptionist a copy of FreeBSD to get her work done.
The corporate environment here @ Apple has been functioning fine for some time now. Our receptionists use Microsoft Office just like you PC people. And I connect from my Mac to my PC with ease under OSX. So this argument really doesn't hold ground like it so many years ago. If you want games, get a PC hands down. Everything else is pretty much available for the Mac though.
Nobody in their right mind should have port 135 open anyway, it's for internal LAN network tasks, and any secure network with a qualified administrator would have had that locked down in the first place. XP's built in firewall does a good job of limiting these types of possible exploits. Again, a safeguard is part of the package. You don't even have to look further than the OS.
My girlfriend got the recent worm everyone's talking about has no clue what a port is (she's running XP home on a dialup connection). And she got screwed. No data loss thank god, but a pain in the ass none the less... _jason_
http://file.sugarqube.com/Cards/jblo_TheWormGame.swf?PL=L400x300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "-<(:: jason ::)>-" <ombass@mac.com> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Orb] Worms / PC / Mac On 8/13/03 2:05 PM, "Mark Schieldrop" <mark@schieldrop.net> wrote:
Macs have viruses too. Don't be naïve.
Well, I'm sure they do... But I work @ Apple, and have used Macs for nearly a decade, and never, EVER have I EVER heard of someone having to reformat their Mac (and lose all data) due to some virus. That was basically my point. Sorry to start a platform war...
The reason PCs have more widespread exploits is because they are more commonly used, and runs most corporate networks these days.
Macs don't 'just work'. They fail and have problems too. Because it's a closed system you have less hardware and software that might not interact smoothly. This is both a positive and a negative.
Windows XP itself has automatic updating these days so there really is no more additional effort involved. I agree that the Mac is a nice machine, but honestly, it's not an alternative to a PC when you require the applications and interoperability of a PC network in a corporate environment, and the applications simply do not exist for the Mac. Just like I wouldn't suggest giving your receptionist a copy of FreeBSD to get her work done.
The corporate environment here @ Apple has been functioning fine for some time now. Our receptionists use Microsoft Office just like you PC people. And I connect from my Mac to my PC with ease under OSX. So this argument really doesn't hold ground like it so many years ago. If you want games, get a PC hands down. Everything else is pretty much available for the Mac though.
Nobody in their right mind should have port 135 open anyway, it's for internal LAN network tasks, and any secure network with a qualified administrator would have had that locked down in the first place. XP's built in firewall does a good job of limiting these types of possible exploits. Again, a safeguard is part of the package. You don't even have to look further than the OS.
My girlfriend got the recent worm everyone's talking about has no clue what a port is (she's running XP home on a dialup connection). And she got screwed. No data loss thank god, but a pain in the ass none the less... _jason_ _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
On 8/16/03 6:04 AM, "Len" <wofoz@planet.nl> wrote:
http://file.sugarqube.com/Cards/jblo_TheWormGame.swf?PL=L400x300
Hahaha Fantastic... This should keep Thrash entertained for hours!! :D Just kiddin', Kris :) -brian
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