Re: [Orb] This is not Orb! - my thoughts on Bikes & Trikes
pay for it like the rest of us have, support our boys don't rip them off! Buy it, listen to it, and find for yourself if it's great or crap!
To be fair, I'm not entirely sure I agree it should go in that order. Would you buy a house without seeing it? Buy clothes without trying them on, or at least knowing if they're your size? Would you buy a car without driving it? Would you marry someone without meeting them? Granted some of these are drastic examples, but the idea is the same. If you are going to invest in something, you should be able to sample it somehow before deciding, sight unseen (or in this case, unheard) whether to buy it! I dont think I should have to spend a money on something without getting an idea of what I'm in for. Its no reflection upon the orb (for the record, I own about 90% of it, and everything that I could find I purchased). I just think its reasonable for me, as the person about to pay $35, to listen to something a bit before I have to spend my hard earned cash on it. I would say that I have purchased a large portion of the things I've downloaded and liked. And things which I buy and don't like, I ultimately just sell, often at a loss. Just as the record label, or even the individual artist, is allowed to defend his rights and his money, so I am allowed to defend mine. It's in the consumer's interest to hear things prior to buying them. I am not trying to defraud anyone, I just want to know what I'm buying. :) ------------------------------------------- 'You know I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office.' -George W. Bush, 1989 'The only cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy.' - Al Smith 'Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely, or to think sanely, under the influence of a great fear. ' - Bertrand Russell 'Reason and free inquiry are the effectual agents against error. They are the natural enemies of error and error only.' - Thomas Jefferson _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
orb (for the record, I own about 90% of it, and everything that I could find I purchased). I just think its reasonable for me, as the person about to pay $35, to listen to something a bit before I have to spend my hard earned cash on it.
and you did - there's a free track on that Japanese website, and two of the other tracks have been readily available.... that should be enough to whet your appetite (or discourage you altogether). as someone who did pay the $37 to have it shipped from Japan, i'll be damned if i'm going to facilitate or encourage someone downloading an album which is readily available for purchase. yes, its expensive, but if you want the luxury of listening to it before its domestically available, you pay the price or suck it up and wait. just my two cents... you all can do whatever you want, but you won't find my copy of the album floating around the net... :-P rachel ------------------------------------ Rachel's Orb Discography http://www.backsideoftheorb.com
At 08:55 PM 6/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
and you did - there's a free track on that Japanese website, and two of the other tracks have been readily available.... that should be enough to whet your appetite (or discourage you altogether). as someone who did pay the $37 to have it shipped from Japan, i'll be damned if i'm going to facilitate or encourage someone downloading an album which is readily available for purchase. yes, its expensive, but if you want the luxury of listening to it before its domestically available, you pay the price or suck it up and wait.
If the means are there to preview the album in gloriously clear 192/44 MP3, please explain the sense in buying it without properly listening to it first. I certainly wouldn't have spent AU$56 importing the album on the strength of Dilmun, Gee Strings, that obnoxious but admittedly catchy first track, and even the beloved Land of Green Ginger. I downloaded it to see if it's worth buying, and i really wanted to justify spending that much money on it; now that i've heard B&T it's highly unlikely i'll bother to import it even if i'm promised a sterling blowjob from whichever FedEx employee delivers it. I'm sorry but even if the Orb release an album there's no moral onus on us to buy it without having a listen to it first. If you yourself want to spend $37 even though you could have heard the album first on peer to peer and made a far more informed decision on what you'd rather spend your money on, that's been your decision: don't assume everyone else is going to take that same tack on historical ceremony. Not to mention i could write a far better song than Dilmun in my sleep. ta, Kurrel
I've only listened to the album once, but Hell's Kitchen is dope. Very Majestic with that driving Orb momentum. Yer Pal, Gel-Sol
OI! )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk thanks for the review.... you guys are great
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look -- )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk
At 08:49 AM 6/16/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look
I was wondering where Thrash went: now we know. :) I'm buying your the Madonna remix project before i buy Bicycles and Tricycles. How much is postage to Australia on top of the ten pounds, btw? ta, Kuzza
I'm buying your the Madonna remix project before i buy Bicycles and Tricycles. How much is postage to Australia on top of the ten pounds, btw?
Yeah, the Madonna Remix Project is very cool. Especially the Material B*tch tracks, which I believe are Thrash's there are some other very tasty treats on it as well. d/l from www.justablip.co.uk .. :| eric :| :| www.xenlab.com :| enlightenment thru evolution ..
Er well we only just finished the shop last night... The guy put 6 quid postage in for some reason cos he hasn't put the shipping software on top yet We still checkin that out - don't buy it yet! The shop went live last night so it does werk But we aint got shipping in yet.. Delivery of cd n ting is on Friday.. Yayyyy! Shit I better snort it out.. Yeah yeah I just spend all my time drunk Falling through doors.. Kris -- )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Bennett Sent: 16 June 2003 09:52 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: RE: [Orb] OI! At 08:49 AM 6/16/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look
I was wondering where Thrash went: now we know. :) I'm buying your the Madonna remix project before i buy Bicycles and Tricycles. How much is postage to Australia on top of the ten pounds, btw? ta, Kuzza _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
I was just wondering what anyone who has listened to B&T thought about the production quality of the surround sound. I personally think it is good. Very well layered and separated used with enough judgment to be subtle yet immerse you in the sound.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:49:07AM +0100, angry troll [OT] wrote:
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look
yeah, someone told the list about the remix project. not many responses though
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hehe, love the ascii cuppa! tata for now... j -- "People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin
ive downloaded a few tracks on me ol faithfull 56k(well...4k) a sec modem- seems o.k on the first few listens! the type of tunes you need to listen to a few times to get a feel of the bizzare flow! loads a voice samples n stuff! tracks cut and droped in -never know whats gonna happen next type a thing! which is rarther interesting! 'what the fuck du think your doing???' so did you get madonna in the studio for that? did you try touchin her up?? well i heard a couple of the tracks on me home grown mushys so i got a few bizzare flash backs when listening to them today! so my opinion is rarther distorted ! but yeh veey good! gonna go download the rest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Wakely" <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Orb] OI!
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:49:07AM +0100, angry troll [OT] wrote:
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look
yeah, someone told the list about the remix project. not many responses though
)) (( c[_] bLiP
www.justablip.co.uk
hehe, love the ascii cuppa!
tata for now...
j
-- "People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin
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The sample came from her seeding p2p networks (like kazaa) with that sample looped the exact length of the tracks on her new ablum. Then they were uploaded using the proper names, so that mp3 "pirates" downloaded it, popped it on and her screaming at them for 5mins per track or whateve.r In turn inspired thrash and irixx to do the remix project... There's more on the justablip.co.uk web site. Protest thru creativity. .. :| eric :| :| www.xenlab.com :| enlightenment thru evolution .. -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of john bennett Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:33 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] OI! ive downloaded a few tracks on me ol faithfull 56k(well...4k) a sec modem- seems o.k on the first few listens! the type of tunes you need to listen to a few times to get a feel of the bizzare flow! loads a voice samples n stuff! tracks cut and droped in -never know whats gonna happen next type a thing! which is rarther interesting! 'what the fuck du think your doing???' so did you get madonna in the studio for that? did you try touchin her up?? well i heard a couple of the tracks on me home grown mushys so i got a few bizzare flash backs when listening to them today! so my opinion is rarther distorted ! but yeh veey good! gonna go download the rest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Wakely" <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Orb] OI!
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 08:49:07AM +0100, angry troll [OT] wrote:
Ahh guys n gals I missed ya Have you heard what I bin doin? Some stoopid madonna bullshit Have a look
yeah, someone told the list about the remix project. not many responses though
)) (( c[_] bLiP
www.justablip.co.uk
hehe, love the ascii cuppa!
tata for now...
j
-- "People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term
security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin
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blimme im way behind aint I!! must be all the shrooms - there's me with this vision of thrash putin a 'clip on mic' on madonna's... hmm? ... well it was fun while it lasted!
I would like to formally request now to alex paterson That he rejoins with me as the orb and we can do a benefit gig.. Proceeds go to bumping off all members of this list.. Then I will go about changing the music of the orb into something you all wont like - I dunno ; like madonna Please don't tell me you like that shit.... Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease... ;-) -- )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of angry troll {OT} Sent: 16 June 2003 08:40 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] OI! OI! )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk thanks for the review.... you guys are great _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb
re: I dunno ; like madonna
Please don't tell me you like that shit.... Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease...
Hello Orb peoples i love madonna ps. please stop the verbal beef and be nice now peace, partyland ----- Original Message ----- From: "angry troll [OT]" <thrash@justablip.co.uk> To: "'angry troll {OT}'" <thrash@justablip.co.uk>; <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [Orb] OI!
I would like to formally request now to alex paterson That he rejoins with me as the orb and we can do a benefit gig.. Proceeds go to bumping off all members of this list.. Then I will go about changing the music of the orb into something you all wont like - I dunno ; like madonna Please don't tell me you like that shit.... Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease...
;-) --
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-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of angry troll {OT} Sent: 16 June 2003 08:40 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] OI!
OI! )) (( c[_] bLiP
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thanks for the review.... you guys are great
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----- Original Message ----- From: "angry troll [OT]" <thrash@justablip.co.uk>
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What happened to the site? It reports no DNS entry or summat. Did it get pulled down? ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/
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----- Original Message ----- From: "angry troll [OT]" <thrash@justablip.co.uk>
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What happened to the site?
It reports no DNS entry or summat.
Did it get pulled down?
Well, http://www.justablip.com/ seems to have been infected by Kris' particular sensibility; perhaps they are migrating from .co.uk to .com Chris
Well actually That's not that surprising 'from a piss stance' Sounds like some guy leaning up against a bus shelter Trying to hide the fact he has wee'd imself.... like richard james says Madonna is a sucker of young talent She has no original idea in her body She is a tired old granny She should just retire and look after her kids But shes a machine now There too many things driving her Companies / promotions / photos / interviews / shit music I would respect her a little if she gave up her ridiculous career -- )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of partyland Sent: 27 June 2003 15:48 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] OI! re: I dunno ; like madonna
Please don't tell me you like that shit.... Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease...
Hello Orb peoples i love madonna ps. please stop the verbal beef and be nice now peace, partyland ----- Original Message ----- From: "angry troll [OT]" <thrash@justablip.co.uk> To: "'angry troll {OT}'" <thrash@justablip.co.uk>; <orb@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [Orb] OI!
I would like to formally request now to alex paterson That he rejoins with me as the orb and we can do a benefit gig.. Proceeds go to bumping off all members of this list.. Then I will go about changing the music of the orb into something you all wont like - I dunno ; like madonna Please don't tell me you like that shit.... Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease...
;-) --
)) (( c[_] bLiP
www.justablip.co.uk
-----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of angry troll {OT} Sent: 16 June 2003 08:40 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] OI!
OI! )) (( c[_] bLiP
www.justablip.co.uk
thanks for the review.... you guys are great
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