Doesnt any1 use Macky Systems? I have stacks of their catalogs and such, one would think some1 besides my local 80's cover band at Dibbo's Rocks would use them. Both B2M's where interesting.. albeit predicatable. Lets hope that repeating 50 X will prevent the dreaded Ghiardiasis parasite or "Beaver Feaver" as we call it. Don't Drink THE STAGNANT water!!! Stiffler _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail