Well, from what I remember then none of the subscribers ever got their BOBs. I can remember getting two of these digests in a day, almost daily, that had ten or more messages in each and every single one was "Did you get your Bob12?" "Where's my Bob?" "I got Bob12 but still haven't seen Bob9" "I got one Bob but not a Tog." I stuck through that stupid, vapid, shit without bitching more than once about it but people are getting all bent out of shape about ten or fifteen e-mails a week discussing music, the business, past experiences of band members, and off topic ranting. Give me a break. People obviously got a lot of BOB's but the only song that got any real discussion was the Zeto track and that was only once it was released on Bless You! And the discussion was bitching about how awful it is!!! If this is a mailing list about Orb music, let's talk about music. Not screwed up shipping or whether or not one believes Thrash is Thrash or if he's a good person. He was a founding member of the band and his experiences behind the scenes illustrate changes that occurred in this band and even explains the current state of the band since he obviously still interacts with them to some degree. If it rubs you the wrong way, hit [delete] or scroll past it. Like I said before, you can only really post one or two short statements and questions about a "new" unknown white label or compilation and they really are pretty meaningless since only the purchaser of said item can actually LISTEN to it. It helps the collector to know it's out there so they can search for it but what good does it do those of us that want to listen to the Orb? If it gets upped to an ftp that's just great but I'd really like to read descriptions of the music and the way people react to its elements rather than the eBay link and the color of the printing on the catalogue number (not that that's not important but if that's all that got posted I'd unsubscribe in a heartbeat). Since no-one seems to feel like sharing that, I'd like to read more Thrash raving (though he seems to have ducked out again). Message: 4 From: Gavin Miller <orbaddict@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Orb] Believe it or not FORCEFULLY on topic. By god.

I don't remember but one post about the quality of ANY of that music. Not one. "Wow, that was a great song on BOB10, don't you think?"

First, one must get their BOB 10 to appreciate it. That's where the problem was. Gavin www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.