Thanks Gavin, I really appreciate the information. I had been wondering about the quality of mp3 recorders. .......better start being 'nice' and hope that santa brings me a edirol R-09 cheers, billp.s. Upcoming orb live: 11 Jan 2008 - Germany, tbc18 Jan - Blue Mountain, Bristol02 Feb - Hendre Hall, Bangor, Wales8th Feb - Tokyo Unit9th Feb - Osaka Club Karma10th Feb - Nagoya Club Mago01 Mar - Liverpool Carling Academy 20 Mar - Spain, tbc _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM