P.S. Sorry non orb: but are there any astronomers out there. I have just seem hubble photos of the galaxy collision in NGC 6745. My question is, if the universe is expanding how can there be a galaxy collision? Every point in the universe should be moving AWAY from every other point. You can answer off list if you like. many thanks. bb Hey i've been triggered by your question! I do work in the field of space technology and stuff, and i think i now the answer. What you say i right, every point should move away from every other point, IF there wasn't the phenomenon called GRAVITY! This causes heavy objects to atract each other causing collisions. By the way i think i saw they used the expression 'being Orbed' in Charmed (series). I thought that was rather funny .. greetz Arv _________________________________________________________________ Verzend en ontvang Hotmail via je mobieltje: http://mobile.msn.com