IMHO the 97 versions of Terminus are much better than the version from Maritime, the sounds on the early versions feel a lot like Orbus Terrarum period Orb, probably benefiting from one Andy Hughes on the mix . . . I also have the maritime rm stream converted to mp3 if someone wants it, it just so happens to fit nicely on a disc with Orblivion radio sessions recently discussed . . . Jason Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com