the only thing is im not going to stop babbling im trying for a record... thats the only thing im not babbling to piss you off or anything i just get bored sometimes i been babbling here since about 1994 and thats how its going to be i agree about email being fun to flame i do it all the time but i also have a sense of detachment from my writing its not really me , these words... so come on lets have a laugh put your orblist mail in a folder and deal with our posts or.... killfile me or.... i dunno - kill me! probably be doing me a favour i think you are not clint boucher anyway i dunno who you are exactly but i dont believe what people say from their posts because many people have fooled me before... mmmm might have to look you up... lemme see...... -- )) (( c[_] bLiP www.justablip.co.uk (don't bother going there when you stop babbling to the list all the time, that may be the day when i become civil. but then again, civility is often overrated. esp when email is involved.