yea, right before things started turnin bad I ordered a whopping 2 octopus shirts, a rerelease of SE's goat shirt, 2 octopus records and a set of MUGZ! That put a nice big hole in my wallet. So like does anyone know if mugz were hard to manufacture or what? just don't know what to do. _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp