You know, I could care less about all of your war opinions....I subscribed to this list cuz i wanted to get more involved with all things Orb. I don't think one person on this Planet can absorb all the factors in this war to determine whether its wrong or right, or whatever you think.....now you made me give my two cents, which i didn't want to give in the first place, cuz it isn't worth a shit.....neither is yours, so take it elsewhere. So is patterson gonna work with Fripp again? I read somewhere they might do another FFWD album, but that was along time ago. And does anyone have a copy of the song "Jam on Yer Honey?" I remember hearing a real media stream from www.theorb.com around the same time Cydonia v.1 was floating around.... Any help would be appreciated. Yer pal, Gel-Sol <------writes electronic music! www.gel-sol.com