Yeah, Vsnares are definitely worth it... If you're into great hardcore, with out being crappy repetitive... Dunno if im into hardcore But Im downloading their entire output to see if they any good... His other stuff can be more repetitive, but still good. Another great album of his is "Printf(Shiver in Eternal Darkness)" Oh ok thanks ill check it :-) ... I know it's cool to hate on drukqs - I remember the chat room on soulseek blowing up about it for 6 months when it was released (which in MP3 world is months in advance of the hard copy). But to say it's all plug-ins and ignore the pure piano tracks, that he composed and played, and not to mention that without him most of the glitch stuff I listen to wouldn't exist is just folly on your part. However, you're like a friend of mine - anything he hates I know is good... The glitch scene is boys music for wanking... How dare you say my opinion of drugs is based on anything other than air vibrations Well I did say there were a couple of things as well if you remember But I don't think those things excuse all the wanking on it What you think I hang around on boards to get my opinions? Well, youre right! ,... I mean no youre not.. Speaking of super-collider - a (different) friend of mine composes improve collider music that even has the author of the program baffled that he got it make the sounds that he does... And not to mention that super-collider is what Nobukazu Takemura uses to compose his tracks ... .oh yeah I got that guy Still aint listened to him yet Hes 95th in the queue at the moment.. As a friend of mine once said.. Oh I can feel mr brown lapping at the bombay doors...