in response to mark weston... Watch out using Kazzaa... about 8 weeks ago I had to stop using it because it was putting a *virus* on my computer every time (pc version, of course)I quit the program (mcafee security center alerted me each time, though, and cleaned the file- and further scanning was never necessary, it seems it never got a chance to spread). Don't know if the 'virus' was simply spyware or not, but I just don't trust K. anymore and I quit using it. Record labels have begun poisoning P2P networks in an attempt to bring them down completely. My advice: find a friend who runs linux and download stuff from *his/her* computer! (BTW, this is my first post to 'yall! cheers~ I hope to not habitually make post this long, but...) What are the chances someone would be up for setting up a private network (like KDX) specifically for sharing *Orb*/related stuff between us all in a protected, private, and secure environment? I was invited into a little 'secret' encrypted KDX network based out of France and it's quite nice.... I'm sure there are some among us with some *stellar* collections; although I loathe mp3's, and I'm sick of not being able to make a decent cd with them (gaps between tracks, etc.), I don't know of any other way to get some of this stuff. At the very least it would be easy to set up, or maybe FTP. (In fact, my little orb list can be found at my corny fan page: http://compassionat.net/orb.htm - maybe someone here can help me out with getting some of the things I'm missing!) yours truly, elliott in portland, OR ===== **********compassionat.net**********