Well let's see, what do you have to offer free and clear to this list? DO you Chris and Matt run a server on your computer to let people have access to your ORB files? IF so, never seen it of tried to use. That might be because you don't or can't or won't set one up. I have had one for years for people to use as "they" wish. IT is on my main workstation and it gets slow because of that fact. IT is a nice box and very fast, not an old dilapidated 486 or something like that. But enjoy your trivial lives and try to have fun off list. I know that I do. Oh and what is a GIT for us Americans not privy to European slang? TRANSLATE... RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN