as for the new york times and this pathetic american ideological warfare where they feel they have to resort to using a word like liberal to brand people and associate lots of bad feelings with it in the media etc.. i see through them... that goes for the new york times im sure they dont openly speak out against israel which is the BIGGEST issue in america and the world today its all the frickin palestinian two legged beasts isnt it...? its all their fault the way they throw stones at those poor IDF soldiers... defenceless with their billions of dollars every year you lot give em... i personally think its totally OK for soldiers to open fire on children who throw stones at them.. completely completely ok would could be better in fact.. some nice child killing ... awesome... in fact if i was in the US i would pay my taxes with glee knowing they are going towards blowing the shit out of some poor defenceless bastard.. and his kids... so i cant imagine why the new york times should be so subversive if anything the opposite they are near enough the mouthpiece of government and business in america if business dont like what a journalist says in the new york times hes out - and its all internalised values that no one ever questions remarkably stupid but hey i havent stopped evolving you guys do what you like __ kwis )) (( c[_] scuse the epenthesis *****************************