Sorry guys, but I'm gonna have to put in my 2 penneth. Whilst you guys appear to be frustrated about the number of posts about RMS's ftp, I can't say that I find it annoying or offensive. Matt, what I will say is that I do find your attitude towards RMS and the posts you make with reference to it offensive in the extreme. There is no reason to be offensive and use the expletives you do about this. With regards to the technical setup of his FTP, I am sure there are technical reasons why he has his ftp setup the way he does and you are not necessarily in a position to judge him for that. Why are you attempting to run a hate campaign towards a person on the net. What I will say is that whilst the Internet grants us all freedoms, we have a moral obligation to use that sensibly. You do not appear to be treating this freedom of speech with the correct amount of respect. If you want to have a flame war with someone, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST! PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH AGGRESSIVE LANGUAGE! I would like to read some if this at work but am unable to take the risk because of your behaviour and language. Chris _____ From: orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+interax=hotmail.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Matt S Sent: 28 February 2006 23:42 To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] RE: Orb Digest, Vol 36, Issue 15 Dear Ken, You didn't piss me off at all. Actually I thought it funny while everyone else was thanking me for the Pomme Fritz video you saw it fit to admonish me for "non contribution." Simply put, RMS has stopped his annoying posts on the KLF list because A) He can't keep up with the flurry of activity and B) Each post is accomponied by its own link to the file in question. My goal is to render his FTP obsolete and thus the responsorials from you and him alike. Many people have trouble getting onto that ancient machine, and the same amount have trouble configuring routers for bittorent.. etc etc. Lets make this music more accessable to the hoi polloi. On 2/28/06, Ken Erxleben <seedybrick@hotmail.com> wrote: "Love him or hate him, nobody wants to hear me spam the list bitching about RMS and his FTP spam. Well instead, I'm just simply going to respond with a rapidshare link of the subject matter available for download by anyone of any class, creed, race or computer ability." YES!!! at least you can acknowledge that even IF RMS was a real problem that YOU and the people that bitch about him doesn't help at all....if anything it makes it worse! look - i'm not looking for a pissing match here - it just bothers me when i see people adding posts to this list for the soul purpose of complaining......complaining about someone offering music no less! you can offer up whatever you wish and i commend you for that. nothing wrong with having more than one available source for the goodies this list holds. "Now I did the same thing for Pomme Fritz, but only Ken and RMS seemed to be unhappy about it. I wonder why? The same person maybe? Hmmm. " the only thing i was unhappy about was your bitching about someone that is posting with open arms. same person??? dude...get a grip! "We did our own lil research on the KLF list and there we discovered precisely 18% of our posts were not just RMS, but RMS on the topic of his FTP." really though?? that's pretty obsessive - should rms be flattered?? 101!!! i'm stepping away from this whole issue as i need not be involved. i would just like to say that if you really have a problem with RMS that perhaps you should keep it to yourself because i don't think this stuff is beneficial to the community at all - and RMS's server IS beneficial - no matter which angle you look at it. Give the guy some credit for taking his time to help us all get the music we are looking for. If you don't wish to give him credit - then deal with it. There are plenty here that are thankful for what he has to offer and this whole "ego trip" thing i just don't get at all. it almost reaks of jealousy or something. but either way - we're all here for one reason and we all have a common bond. no need to muck it all up with shittalk. sorry to piss you off matt - but hopefully you're adult enough to understand where i'm coming from and perhaps you can real eyes that people like RMS do not deserve your disrespect. cheers peeps - orb is coming to the USA in no time let's keep focused ;) _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:Orb@mailman.xmission.com> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com -- --