In a message dated 5/19/02 10:40:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fnord@hating.com writes: << Overall, I think they are worth it, as buying them supports the band, it saves the hassle of making your own, and it shows a bit of good faith on everyone's part. >> Yeah good faith ... just like when I returned another one of BadOrb's incorrect shipments at my expense with their promise of reimbursement. Still waiting on seeing my money out of that one. Oh well, the MP3s are good since you can at least listen them. No way in hell I can listen to my BOB10 which arrived smashed to hell. As always, I'm still waiting on a response from Garpoopoo on how to get a replacement vinyl (my success rate is 0 asking for cash, so what the hell, maybe I can get another vinyl. Oh damn, they only make the vinyl according to the original orders so now what will I do ?? Oh I know, just wait until the re-issues arrive). So by all means, please support the BadOrbs folks by tossing your money their way. Who knows, maybe one day they will get enough orders to finally afford some decent packaging for the products. Oh I forgot, they already charge enough for decent packaging. More than enough in fact. I think the word robbery comes to mind.